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John 10:10 Member (Idle past 3025 days) Posts: 766 From: Mt Juliet / TN / USA Joined: |
ringo writes,
quote:Unbelievers totally reject God's message of the Bible for those who repent of their sins that Jesus purchased their salvation by His shed blood. Believers in the Lord Jesus Christ totally accept God's message of the Bible for those who repent of their sins that Jesus purchased their salvation by His shed blood. It seems to me that unbelievers who are blinded by the god of this world Satan are the ones who are getting a different message from the Bible, not Believers. Edited by John 10:10, : added "not Believers"
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John 10:10 Member (Idle past 3025 days) Posts: 766 From: Mt Juliet / TN / USA Joined: |
ringo writes,
quote:God gives to every man a "measure of faith" (Rom 12:3) to believe in who God is and in God's salvation in Christ Jesus, which then does lead to overcoming the evil one. When this faith is rejected, the god of this world Satan continues to rule the minds/beliefs of unbelievers.
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John 10:10 Member (Idle past 3025 days) Posts: 766 From: Mt Juliet / TN / USA Joined: |
ringo wrties,
quote:Consider getting a Christmas present sometime that you never open. The measure of faith lightbulb moment must be received and opened before one can have it. Then one grows in that faith until our Lord calls us home to be with Him in eternity. Edited by John 10:10, : No reason given.
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John 10:10 Member (Idle past 3025 days) Posts: 766 From: Mt Juliet / TN / USA Joined: |
ringo wrote,
quote:If you and others want to use the Bible as a doorstop, wall decoration, or cookbook, that is your choice. Many actually eat the recipes of the Bible, receiving God's plan of salvation for man through our Lord Jesus Christ. O taste and see that the LORD is good ; How blessed is the man who takes refuge in Him! (Psa 34:8)
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John 10:10 Member (Idle past 3025 days) Posts: 766 From: Mt Juliet / TN / USA Joined: |
dwise1 wrote,
quote:You got it backwards in the first place. Water baptism is an outward testimony of an inward "born again experience" (John 3:3-7) that has already taken place in your heart.
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John 10:10 Member (Idle past 3025 days) Posts: 766 From: Mt Juliet / TN / USA Joined: |
quote: (1) Yes! (2) Because 40 different writers wrote 66 books of the Bible over 1500+ years presenting God's love and salvation message to man that has been working for New Testament Believers for 2000 years. Show me one other example of any other book ever written by men that can compare with the Bible? (3) Because the same things written in the Acts 2 Bibles we have today have been happening to Believers in the Lord Jesus Christ for the last 2000 years. The Bibles we have today can be verified to be accurate based on manuscripts that date back to the time of Christ.
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John 10:10 Member (Idle past 3025 days) Posts: 766 From: Mt Juliet / TN / USA Joined: |
Please show us how the Upanishads & the Suttas were wtitten by 40 different authors over 1500+ years that present present a consistent message from the start to the finish about God's salvation message to man?
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John 10:10 Member (Idle past 3025 days) Posts: 766 From: Mt Juliet / TN / USA Joined: |
purpledawn wrote,
quote:So you think the writers of the Bible simply "saw a need and filled it"! What evidence can you provide that this is true, and it was not God inspiring these writers to present His salvation message to man through both the OT and NT writings? I noticed you failed to provide my complete (3) quote,
quote:I was referring mainly to the Dead Sea Scrolls discovered in 1947 and following which date back to 1st century AD which verify the messages of the OT scriptures. Most of the NT writings can be dated back to the 4th century AD, and present God's same salvation message as is found in the Bibles we have today. Since God's salvation message that is written in the Acts 2 Bibles we have today, which can be verified by the 4th century manuscripts, have been happening to Believers in the Lord Jesus Christ until now, unbelievers may need more proof, but not Believers.
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John 10:10 Member (Idle past 3025 days) Posts: 766 From: Mt Juliet / TN / USA Joined: |
quote: These will do in a nutshell, John 1:11 He came to His own, and those who were His own did not receive Him.12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name, 13 who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God. John 3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God."4 Nicodemus said to Him, "How can a man be born when he is old ? He cannot enter a second time into his mother's womb and be born, can he?" 5 Jesus answered, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 6 "That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7 "Do not be amazed that I said to you, 'You must be born again.' Acts 2:38 Peter said to them, "Repent, and each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins ; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.39 "For the promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off, as many as the Lord our God will call to Himself."
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John 10:10 Member (Idle past 3025 days) Posts: 766 From: Mt Juliet / TN / USA Joined: |
quote:John 16:13 "But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth ; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak ; and He will disclose to you what is to come. 14 "He will glorify Me, for He will take of Mine and will disclose it to you. 15 "All things that the Father has are Mine ; therefore I said that He takes of Mine and will disclose it to you. You will notice, the Holy Spirit guides us into the truth of who Jesus is by taking the words that Jesus spoke while on earth and disclosing them to us. God does not ask His children to do anything contrary to the principles God gave in His Word. That's why Believers need the Word. The Spirit leads us into how to carry out the spiritual principles God has revealed in His Word. That's why Believers need the Spirit.
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John 10:10 Member (Idle past 3025 days) Posts: 766 From: Mt Juliet / TN / USA Joined: |
quote:Pure and simple: Because there are a lot of charlatans out there that would like to tell you things that violate the principles of God's Word.
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John 10:10 Member (Idle past 3025 days) Posts: 766 From: Mt Juliet / TN / USA Joined: |
The essence of God's salvation in Christ Jesus in "BOTH repentance AND being born again by God's Spirit."
Do not ignore the entire message of John 3:3-7.
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John 10:10 Member (Idle past 3025 days) Posts: 766 From: Mt Juliet / TN / USA Joined: |
quote:Read my lips: Because there are a lot of charlatans out there that would like to tell you things (that they say the Holy Spirit told them) that violate the principles of God's Word.
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John 10:10 Member (Idle past 3025 days) Posts: 766 From: Mt Juliet / TN / USA Joined: |
Those that have repented of their sins and have been "born again" by the Spirit through faith in our Lord Jesus Christ know the authority and inspiration of the of the Bible.
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John 10:10 Member (Idle past 3025 days) Posts: 766 From: Mt Juliet / TN / USA Joined: |
quote:If you can't understand the answer I gave you the last time you asked this question, you won't understand it if I give it to you again. Peace Edited by John 10:10, : added "you"
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