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xongsmith Member Posts: 2587 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 7.0 |
Just a short point...
dronester writes: Seems a "liberal" president wouldn't also be a war-monger. Oh yes they would. Try the word "progressive". "Liberal", as exposed in the old Phil Ochs song, is a word to describe those who, among other things, do not walk the talk. - xongsmith, 5.7d
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2587 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 7.0 |
I wouldn't object personally, but there is the matter of modern connotation.
For example, I do think Crashfrog is using the older traditional sense. - xongsmith, 5.7d
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2587 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 7.0 |
Crash croaks:
I did actually respond to this, and my response was to ask you why Obama should close the "MASSIVE" US embassy in Iraq. As you'll recall, your reply was to deny that you ever said such a thing, but here you are saying it again. So if I say my uncle is vastly, staggeringly, obscenely overweight, that means I am saying he should be killed? Give that bit up, Crash - you lost that one. - xongsmith, 5.7d
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2587 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 7.0 |
crashfrog points out that it takes 60 votes to prevent filibustering:
No, it's a debate on how a 60-vote supermajority requirement in an anti-representative body results in the privileging of conservative outcomes and the suppression of progressive ones. Semantics has nothing to do with it - the debate is on the structure of government. crash! We're in luck! right now the Dems are trying to modify the filibuster rules. It would be in small steps. Some want to require that the side that wants to filibuster first show 40 votes to filibuster and some want the guy doing the actual filibustering to be present on the floor (no secret holds and 30-hour delays). For example, Bernie Sanders did it the right way. But, alas, they still have the herding-cats-problem in their ranks: http://thehill.com/...-delays-in-effort-to-reform-filibuster - xongsmith, 5.7d
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2587 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 7.0
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crash writes: Not to anyone who can read. Hoist this up on your shoulder, crash:
You are being really some kind of major asshole here. I wish you weren't, because you seem like you are on the right side. You have many good points in this forum. But no. Instead you are dying on the hill refusing to admit your fuckup. - xongsmith, 5.7d
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2587 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 7.0 |
frog writes: How can you not "continue a policy" of diplomatic relations and embassy presence in Iraq except by closing the embassy? But why would Obama do that? Wrong question. Should be:
How can you "continue a policy" of diplomatic relations and embassy presence in Iraq and get rid of that massive insult to the world? You simply replace the foul thing that's there with an ordinary sized embassy staffed with a normal State Department Ambassador and staff, like is done in so many other countries by so many other other countries. That's how. Why is that so hard to see? - xongsmith, 5.7d
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2587 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 7.0 |
coyote writes: Why does the size of the embassy mean so much to you?
To me? I suppose it does. It seems to matter to Dronester as well. An embassy is supposed to be a symbol of good will between 2 countries and facilitate a trusted communication line to slow down any rush to judgment and to facilitate political favors and other such decent humanities. What Cheney's gang has created is nothing less than a Monstrous Insult to all other Nations on the Earth. The Embassy portion of the Fortress only occupies a small corner somewhere, sanitized and safely walled off for presentation to visiting dignitaries. The people you find there will not have any idea what is going on in the other part of this structure. The rest of the Complex is nothing less than a super secret Weapon of Mass Destruction, connected to Washington, Houston, Cheyenne Mountain, Camp David and who knows what other places around the globe, with fault-proof redundant EMF-proof communication lines. There are most certainly numerous nuclear missile launching tubes buried deep within its imposing countenance, some even aimed at targets within the United States. Blackwater projects can be run from inside with impunity. The Shadow Government of rulers that Cheney set up (remember?) are there in place and have the utmost in luxurious accommodations, food and drink & various other salacious activities catered to whatever their perverted whims may desire, including one-way views of the Rendition Rooms of exquisite torturing techniques constructed next to laboratories equipped with the latest in high-tech weapon development. Compared to Cheney, Felix Mengele was a mere amateur. Or, as Rose Rosanna Anna Danna says, nevermind.... - xongsmith, 5.7d
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2587 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 7.0 |
coyote nicely comes back with
Do you feel OK? Have you missed any of your meds? From this post I am beginning to wonder. Hey - I'll have you know I had a heckuva lot of fun putting that one together! Where is Ian Fleming when we need him!!!! Never felt better today! (56 minutes old as it is) p.s. - I forgot to mention again the barometric cryogenic crypts they have at the bottom level (104 acres!) for the families of Bush, Cheney, Clinton, Reagan, Scalia, Heston, Nixon and Obama and others that would take too long to include in this post. - xongsmith, 5.7d
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2587 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 7.0 |
froggy writes: That's even stupider. There's a perfectly adequate building already built for the US embassy in Iraq. Why tear it down and build a smaller one? Why not, instead, use less of it, which is what the Obama administration has done? Because the portion of it that is not being used as an Embassy is instead a Fortress built out of Dick Cheney's and others' desires to reach hegemony over the oil-producing region. It is an insulting, arrogant augmentation to the smaller structure for the indigenous people living in that country. The hatred many of them have for the USA is not being quelled or mollified - instead it is being inflamed and exacerbated. This is not how you win back the hearts & minds of a people who have lost trust in you as a nation. It is directly opposite the humility needed.
If that's what you really wanted, you wouldn't be complaining. Ergo, what you want is for Obama to close the US embassy in Iraq altogether. LOL - more of your FAULTY Ergo!!!! Remember: It's Dronester who does not want it closed. Just NOT anywhere near as massive. However, I want it moved. I want the Embassy rebuilt in Bagdad proper, in a small, modest, peaceful form with a normal sized staffing. And I want the Iraqi citizens to have the delicious privilege of destroying Cheney's Folly with whatever it takes, because I have no idea how far down into the earth it goes. It will be a good opportunity for them to do an underground nuclear test. Letting them destroy it totally will do wonders at restoring good will towards the US. I say move the real Embassy back into town, where you can meet with the people. - xongsmith, 5.7d
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2587 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 7.0 |
Crash reports:
This is the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard. What could possibly be your evidence for such a claim? Oh, spit that hook out, frog. Here's a hint:I really, really miss The Good Ol' Doctor Hunter S. Thompson.... - xongsmith, 5.7d
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2587 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 7.0
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LOL
You get the files, the desks, the chairs, the staff, the office equipment from the portion of the building that comprises the Embassy and put them in a couple few of those U-Haul truck equivalents they have there and move them to your new humble intown Embassy. - xongsmith, 5.7d
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2587 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 7.0
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Taz writes: No other nation on Earth that currently has as many enemies who have sworn to its destruction than Israel. ...with the possible exception of the United States. - xongsmith, 5.7d
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