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We are DOOMED, Sat may 21, 2011

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05-19-2011 12:02 PM

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05-23-2011 10:55 AM 		Reply to: Message 151 by crashfrog
05-23-2011 10:44 AM

Re: Camping Speaks
Crash, I usually agree with much you post. However, prosecuting idiots for saying idiotic things leading other idiots to do harm to themselves or others is folly. If he incited a riot that would be one thing. But printing billboards and spewing crap on the airwaves is protected. Otherwise every kook in the country would be calling out for a law suit for the bad choices they made due to being gullible and stupid. I would be interested in how culpable this man is legally.
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05-23-2011 2:18 PM 		Reply to: Message 154 by crashfrog
05-23-2011 12:16 PM

Re: Camping Speaks
crashfrog writes:
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Why do you think she was an idiot?
For believing the world is going to end on 21 May 2011.
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crashfrog writes:
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Why couldn't she have been an entirely regular person incited to a harmful, criminal act by another person acting with reckless disregard for human life and public safety?
She is ultimately responsible for her actions. Just because someone tells you to jump off a cliff...you know the rest.
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Are you saying that speech can never be a criminal act? What about fraud? What about saying "I'll give you $10,000 to commit murder on my behalf"? Those are both examples of criminalized speech acts. I don't think someone who hears the latter and then goes off and commits murder is an "idiot" who is solely responsible for their actions. Telling someone you'll pay them to commit murder is nothing but a speech act, but it also makes you party to a crime.
The examples you give are of course crimes. Fraud is of course illegal, so is murder for hire. But predicting the end of the world is not.
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I believe Camping is party to this crime, as well.
If found so he will be prosecuted. I doubt they will have a case.
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