Information's role in evolution.Should we put it more in the picture?

In humans knowledge represents the most significant aspect of life. In other higher organisms and in lower ones it plays important role also. .
Plants.
Here we haven’t neural system. But plants have chemicals, hormones and pollen as ways of internal and external communication system.
One cell organisms.
Feeding substance or the lack of it, or irritants met on environment stand for sources of information. This type of information causes production of chemicals that lead to simple reaction of parts of the cell (genome, natural genetic engineering systems) or the whole of it. So we have here in away a mode of learning arc, where neural system is substituted by chemicals or the above engineering systems.
Matter.
If we make a bold jump of thought, we can say the four interactive forces, by which the simplest particles in the universe interact with one another, eg gravity, electromagnetism, weak and strong nuclear forces are all, in other words, expression of communication between them.So communication, eg information transfer is taking place even between non living matter staff and is essential to universe development. Of course this must happen on a more wide and complicated scale on living organisms and especially as regards to life development and evolution. It seems there is in nature, and it is logical to be, a continuum relating communication from simple matter to higher living beings.Each animal has billions of neural cellsIs it logical to exclude this so rich and widespread function from the process of evolution ? This does not seem to be in accord to nature’s economy law.I believe this was the result of Darwinians dogmatic belief that knowledge has no any whatsoever serious effect on evolution process.That is why i believe we need to aknowledge the the importance of information's (and neural system's) role in evolution.

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Information: It is time its undeservedly neglectet powerful role to evolution to be restored.

This is an unfortunate Darwinism axioma.In view of recent scientific findingsit is not true..I expect arguments (logical or from science research) and not just assertions.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Information: It is time its undeservedly neglectet powerful role to evolution to be restored.

I agree about behavior. But information....Epigenetics had proved that information has effect on perigenome area. So there is the mechanism that transfers information to perigenome.On the other hand we keep in mind that this information comes during life span only. Think what the effect would be if the same type of information comes again and again over manny, maybe million, of generations by empathy. In any case you have not any relative research to disproof it. Not me either. So we can believe at the moment what we like. You have heard i suppose about the 'function driven evolution' in Genetic Phylogeny by Sean D. Pitman M.D. October 2004 Updated April 2008 .
I don't give any teleology meaning to function. I simply say that it is in essense an evolution mode based on information transfer from environment to genome.About the same say Shapiro, b. Wright, Dobzansky, Weissman and Darwin himself.,

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Information: It is time its undeservedly neglectet powerful role to evolution to be restored.

It seems we agree. somehow. My Neuro-genic theory of evolution (http://www.sleepgadgetabs.com) tries exactly how to model information in the process of evolution. I dont see it as a problem of mine. My theory has nothing to do with Creationism. Measuring information is a matter of research.If it is needed somebody will do it.-------------------------------------------------------------------------------Edited by zi ko, : No reason given.Edited by zi ko, : No reason given.

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Information: It is time its undeservedly neglectet powerful role to evolution to be restored.

I suppose you mean:If a member of species is watching another member being in danger of being killed by a predator but finally not being killed, how his allele frequency is affected. Am i wright.?--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Edited by zi ko, : No reason given.

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Information: It is time its undeservedly neglectet powerful role to evolution to be restored.

From my Neuro-genc theory:
Empathy
From the number of scientific works on the matter we can conclude that we are at the beginnings of a road that promises a lot. Empathy was long ago known to happen, especially between mother and offspring, but new light is put on it now. Mirror neurons finding substantiates its significance. There is quite a number of works about empathy evolution, but not any on empathy’s role on evolution. In any case nobody up to now had thought that it could have any such importance to evolution, so not any research had been done and its significance has yet to be proved. But it will be of no surprise to me, if these mirror cells would be found in lower animals as well.
According to my theory empathy applies to any living organism with neural system or not, from lower to the higher ones. (To those with no neural tissue its role is served by chemicals and hormones). In higher animals, with formed neural system, it is the basic mechanism that transfers emotional knowledge to genome, through generations. This knowledge starts as simple information coming from environment, is modified properly inside neural system,( eg. is being colored by emotion, if t has survival value for organism), and it ends up to genome, in a repeated fashion, where it has permanent effect. I suspect that this coloring is what mainly is transmitted by empathy. This repeated act over long periods on the same part on DNA, has as an end result, (apart from the early energizing appropriate natural genetic engineering systems, or through this mechanism), to cause more drastic and somehow directed mutations As this affect is exercised over a wide number of subjects of species at about the same time, we have wide spread population genetic changes of similar nature. So there are following phenotype or genotype changes, not only to individuals but also to wide populations, which are later subjected to natural selection.The main question here is: On which grounds can we accept that empathy can have permanent effect on genome?
My answer is:
Empathy is a type of knowledge transfer. We have seen before, that knowledge can have an effect on genome (maybe not permanent) during life span. As empathy works on the same kind of subjects over long periods, maybe millions of years (this is the main new idea that my theory introduces) and not only during short life span, I think, is logical to say that it can have such effect.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Edited by zi ko, : No reason given.

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Information: It is time its undeservedly neglectet powerful role to evolution to be restored.

From Wikpedia:"act the first and Molecular basis of epigenetics
The molecular basis of epigenetics is complex. It involves modifications of the activation of certain genes, but not the basic structure of DNA. Additionally, the chromatin proteins associated with DNA may be activated or silenced. This accounts for why the differentiated cells in a multi-cellular organism express only the genes that are necessary for their own activity. Epigenetic changes are preserved when cells divide. Most epigenetic changes only occur within the course of one individual organism's lifetime, but, if a mutation in the DNA has been caused in sperm or egg cell that results in fertilization, then some epigenetic changes are inherited from one generation to the next.[9] This raises the question of whether or not epigenetic changes in an organism can alter the basic structure of its DNA (see Evolution, below), a form
of Lamarckism"Edited by zi ko, : No reason given.

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Information: It is time its undeservedly neglectet powerful role to evolution to be restored.

Surely there is a problem. Isuggest an exellent article by James A Shapiro , The Third Way.
I quote"Unfortunately, readers of Boston Review may remain unaware of this intellectual ferment because the debate about evolution continues to assume the quality of an abstract and philosophical "dialogue of the deaf" between Creationists and Darwinists. Although our knowledge of the molecular details of biological organization is undergoing a revolutionary expansion, open-minded discussions of the impact of these discoveries are all too rare. The possibility of a non-Darwinian, scientific theory of evolution is virtually never considered. In my comments, then, I propose to sketch some developments in contemporary life science that suggest shortcomings in orthodox evolutionary theory and open the door to very different ways of formulating questions about the evolutionary process. After a discussion of technical advances in our views about genome organization and the mechanisms of genetic change, I will focus on a growing convergence between biology and information science which offers the potential for scientific investigation of possible intelligent cellular action in evolution"Edited by Admin, : Add the missing close quote.

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I am sorry. The link is http://www.sleepgadgetabs.com.Your questions overrun my knowledge and abilitiy. In any case relative research is not existent. We might have to go to bacteria to see the basic interactions between cell-environment, where engineering systems are , i think, the precursories of neural tissue.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Edited by zi ko, : No reason given.

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Information: It is time its undeservedly neglectet powerful role to evolution to be restored.

All types of information and all sense organs. It gets through neural system in a biochemical form and to all cat tissues, as it is known from neural system function. All above functions and questions are well known to neorobiology and i am not the most appropriate person to give the answers From the grade of the shock is sensinsig. The answer is the same as the previous before. I dont think that Nerobiologists have all the answers yet. But they, i am sure, are working on these problems. Finally, if the offence very serious and repetitvely, the gametes. What i am proposing to is just a theory, a hypothesis if you like, and all above yoy ask are to complicated to be answered even by special scientist. In any case the idea neural tissue interference with genome is entirely a new one and not any work has been done.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Information: It is time its undeservedly neglectet powerful role to evolution to be restored.

If antilope is killed or not the watching antilope through empathy feels the threat. If scene is repeated this danger knowledge is transferred through empathy to the siblings and other members, where is being through experience and again empathy reinforced and so on. After many generations this knowlwdge coloured by fear acts on the genome for the appropriate change. I didnt say thoughts, i said information.I say the same about empathy, as a start.

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Information: It is time its undeservedly neglectet powerful role to evolution to be restored.

You ask more it is needed. I quote from Wikipedia:"All scientific knowledge and theories are based on two things: observation and consistent logic. A theory is a logical explanation for observations. A good, scientific theory also proposes a set of new observations that could test a theory's power to explain. Once technology, time or funding catches up with the theory, these observations can be made, which can either support or invalidate the theory. This ability to be tested, and the potential for the theory to be invalided by the experiment, is the essence of falsifiability.[/qs] Edited by zi ko, : No reason given.

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Information: It is time its undeservedly neglectet powerful role to evolution to be restored.

Establishing or not it is to come from other scientists, other than me surely.This is the procedure and essense of falsifiability.i quote from Wikipedia:All scientific knowledge and theories are based on two things: observation and consistent logic. A theory is a logical explanation for observations. A good, scientific theory also proposes a set of new observations that could test a theory's power to explain. Once technology, time or funding catches up with the theory, these observations can be made, which can either support or invalidate the theory. This ability to be tested, and the potential for the theory to be invalided by the experiment, is the essence of falsifiability.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Edited by zi ko, : No reason given.Edited by zi ko, : No reason given.

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Information: It is time its undeservedly neglectet powerful role to evolution to be restored.

You can call it an idea. But remember it is part of the comprehensive theory of Neuro-genic evolution.(http://www.sleepgadgetabs.com)Information role on evolution and its mechanisms is already established by innumerable works on epigenetics and those by Shapiro, B. Wright. Dobshansky , Weismann, father of Ms theory and Darwin himself had aknowledged its significance.So sadly enough your critic is adressed to them and many others as well, not exactly to me.My new ideas are the "thinking neural system" and empathy role on evolution--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Edited by zi ko, : No reason given.

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Information: It is time its undeservedly neglectet powerful role to evolution to be restored.

Sorry. There some confusion here becouse of a proposed theory of neuro-genik evolution (http://www.sleepgadgetabs.com) by me on another thread.Empathy is atype of information. It follows the same paths as information does. And the same mechanism.
It starts functioning as the organism has neural tissue.
The antilope may dy, but the watchinf other members of family or tribe.The CF example has nothing to do with my theory.I dont deny mutations not either natural selection. These cases are explained as before.

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Information: It is time its undeservedly neglectet powerful role to evolution to be restored.