New York Gay Marriage

Yes and some heterosexual children have never had sex with anyone for nearly a decade! OMGBBQObviously we aren't going to compare and contrast the sex lives of children as some sort of determining agent. Well, you objected to my description of bi-sexuals are homosexuals who additionally have sex with women. Yet, you are acknowledging that they do have sex with women.So, are you arguing that bi-sexuals don't have sex with men?Or are you willing to concede that bi-sexuals have sex with both men and women?

First off, I agree that Erasure is a band which largely appeals to bi-sexuals.Secondly, if one group wants to isolate themselves from the whole then they run the risk of being ignored.If the Branch Davidians don't want to be known as "Protestant" as opposed to "Catholic", but rather want to be classified as their own group, then they end up with less voice and less power.What's next? Will bi-sexuals split into three different groups?
bi-sexuals who strictly have straight sex and never gay sex but still want to be called bi-sexual.
bi sexuals who strictly have gay sex and never straight sex but still want to be called bi-sexual.
bi-sexuals who actually engage in sex with both groupsWhy not split further and be "bi-sexuals who have sex more often with men" vs "bi-sexuals who have sex more often with women" vs "bi-sexuals we are absolutely even"Then why not split even further, to "bi sexuals who have sex with men but want to have more sex with women only they don't like the girls they have been meeting and does anyone know anyone they can be introduced to" vs the "bisexuals who have met plenty of nice women but who refuse to date anyone who's not Jewish"The more you split your special interest, the less interest anyone is going to pay to your group because no one thinks you're all that special. Bi-sexuality could use a good does of myopithism (dips if that's not already a word).Stop trying to re-label every single individual, get behind a single cause and work as a team.In fighting is what has kept social issues down for the entire history of the world.

Well, I admit, I've having a lot of trouble following you.You seem to be complaining that I referred to bi-sexuals are homosexuals who also have sex with women. Yet, you admit that they do in fact have sex with women. You also admit that they have homosexual sex.Would you be happier if we referred to bi-sexuals as heterosexuals who aren't heterosexual?

Here's how you overcome it.Stop bitching to the people who are supporting you. Stop complaining that you aren't getting a special label all for yourself.During the civil rights movement, you didn't see a bunch of "half blacks" complaining about "half black" rights. You didn't see yet another groups of "1/4 blacks" complaining about "1/4 black rights". Nor "1/8ths".You didn't have the 1/4 blacks attacking the supporters of civil rights because those supporters weren't taking special care to say: "There shouldn't be segregation between black and white, AND ALSO there shouldn't be segregation between 1/4 blacks and whites".When your special interest group gets so full of itself that it starts attacking supporters instead of opposition, you end up getting exactly what you deserve. Nothing.So, instead of fighting for gay rights, you are now asking people to fight for gay AND bisexual rights.Giving people option of supporting one and rejecting the other.If you just stuck to "straight sex" vs "everything else" and said "everything else gets rights too", you would already be done.Instead you've got to split hairs and then split them again, and again and again and further and further, until anyone who is trying to support anything gets so fed up with the bullshit they walk away.

I will when I come out in support of their life style only to be bitched at by the "sado's" who don't want to be lumped in with the "sadomasochists" because they choose to be SLIGHTLY different and therefore want special treatment.Notice NO ONE is fighting for Bi-Sexual marriage. There's NO SUCH THING.Keep splitting yourself into smaller and smaller groups and you are gonna get left behind by people who don't want to bother having to appease every little bitchy subgroup along the way

Sure. They exist. They exist in the same way that vegetarians who eat meat exist.

I did. I just pointed out that they are a sub-set of homosexuals and everyone had a sh1t explosion.

How DARE you claim that bi-sexuals are heterosexuals who have gay sex!Get him! He doubted the special secret bi-sexual definition! Quick, before he tries to support equality!

Because they tend to spend an awful lot of time trying to explain the particulars of their sexual desires.If they weren't full of themselves, then it would be "okay I'm gay. I have sex with women sometimes".By the way, LOTS of gay guys have had sex with women, they don't identify themselves as Bi or "Used to be BI"The "bi" community seems chock a block with people who want to stop you and say "well, I'm a part of this special group with a special label, because I like this and this and this other thing."They just can't let it go. Can they?

We don't talk about bi-sexual marriage. We don't talk about bi-sexual rights. We don't talk about bi-sexual-dar.Just like people from England are Europeans who live in England, bi-sexuals are gays that have sex with opposite sex partners as well.They are a sub-category.

Not at all. My whole point being that if someone is full of themselves, they are too self involved to allow something like a group label to occur.A self involved vegetarian is a "lacto-ovo-Vegan", or "a vegetarian who will eat fresh water fish", or "I'm on a special diet that excludes things with faces, but snails and clams are okay".OMG! Enough already. Just say "vegetarian" and be done with it! You don't have to spend so much time and energy trying to carve out a special little place for yourself - it's _self involved_.

Apparently the group that insists that they aren't gay at all, and they shouldn't be deemed gay just because they have sex with the same sex. Why? Because "we're special and deserve a special label for our special group."Self involved.

THIS is what I'm talking about.SELF INVOLVED!Oh my GOD! Someone who points out that your group is involved in gay sex and we're somehow AFRAID OF YOU?!LOL. Give me a F'in break.The problem here is you are so self involved you can't handle the idea of being "gay plus". You need to be your own special little group. "We're not gay, we enjoy sex with dudes AND..."That's GAY PLUS! _GAY_ plus _X_.You could be "straight plus" but since no one is lumping you in with the straights and fighting for "straight marriage" or "straight rights" or "hate crime protection for the straights", you aren't going to get any of that super important attention that you crave so much.

There are only two groups of people. People who have sex with the opposite sex exclusively. People who have sex with the same sex exclusively.There isn't anyone who has sex with both groups._THAT_ would be denying you exist._THIS_ is what I was saying: "There are gay guys who additionally have sex with women".THAT is not denying you exist. That's just not giving you special attention because frankly you don't deserve special attention. Why? Because you aren't special.If you were doing something RADICALLY different, then I'd entertain the argument.Necrophiliacs have sex with the dead. That's radically different. BUT, I don't HEAR any necrophiliacs bitching and moaning about how fair it is that they all get lumped together. After all, I'm sure there are straight and gay necrophiliacs. Or, from your perspective - straight and gay and special special necrophiliacs.

And now we've come full circle to your claim that bi-sexuals don't have sex with men (or with women).Show me how I lied when I said that had sex with both. Then we can repeat that same 3-4 pages OVER and OVER with you continuing to claim you didn't say that, then accuse me of *** for saying that they have sex with both.Won't that be fun.