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Author | Topic: New theory about evolution between creationism and evolution. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Taq Member Posts: 10085 Joined: Member Rating: 5.6 |
As there is no evidence against my ideas i can keep them , can't I? Until you have evidence FOR your ideas there is no reason for people to take them seriously, is there?
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zi ko Member (Idle past 3650 days) Posts: 578 Joined: |
We usually need evidence before we believe something. You seem to forget that the hypothesis of random mutations is a null hypothesis.
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zi ko Member (Idle past 3650 days) Posts: 578 Joined: |
Until you have evidence FOR your ideas there is no reason for people to take them seriously, is there? So why random mutations ,being a null hypothesis, do you take it seriously?
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Taq Member Posts: 10085 Joined: Member Rating: 5.6 |
You seem to forget that the hypothesis of random mutations is a null hypothesis. Only if your hypothesis is non-random mutations. Also, we have presented the evidence for random mutations. You have not presented any evidence for your ideas. So which do you think we accept?
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Taq Member Posts: 10085 Joined: Member Rating: 5.6 |
So why random mutations ,being a null hypothesis, do you take it seriously? Do you even understand what a null hypothesis is?
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zi ko Member (Idle past 3650 days) Posts: 578 Joined: |
Do you even understand what a null hypothesis is?
Certainly not... Only that it can't be evidenced. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Information: It is time its undeservedly neglectet powerful role to evolution to be restored.
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zi ko Member (Idle past 3650 days) Posts: 578 Joined: |
Also, we have presented the evidence for random mutations. You have not presented any evidence for your ideas. So which do you think we accept? I don't remember you having brought any evidence. I have stated repeatedly there is not any evidence about empathy and propably it could never be. Also I remember you didn't answer my question about randomness or not of light changing direction when passing through crystal -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Edited by zi ko, : No reason given.Information: It is time its undeservedly neglectet powerful role to evolution to be restored.
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Larni Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined:
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Certainly not... Only that it can't be evidenced. We've been trolled. It's the only explanation.
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Panda Member (Idle past 3743 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined:
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Larni writes:
I think Zi Ko has failed the Turing Test.
We've been trolled. It's the only explanation.
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Taq Member Posts: 10085 Joined: Member Rating: 5.6 |
Certainly not... Only that it can't be evidenced. A null hypothesis can most certainly be evidenced. If it is evidenced then the hypothesis is false. That is the whole purpose of the null hypothesis, to describe the evidence that falsifies the hypothesis. We can add null hypothesis to the scientific terms that you do not understand.
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Taq Member Posts: 10085 Joined: Member Rating: 5.6 |
I don't remember you having brought any evidence. Go read message 34 in this very thread.
I have stated repeatedly there is not any evidence about empathy and propably it could never be. Then why should we accept it as true?
Also I remember you didn't answer my question about randomness or not of light changing direction when passing through crystal
How is light scattering through a crystal analogous to mutations? Are mutations guided by the crystal structure of salt?
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Larni Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: |
Ha ha!
LMAO!
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zi ko Member (Idle past 3650 days) Posts: 578 Joined: |
I quote from wikipedia:
It is important to understand that the null hypothesis can never be proven. Your data can only reject a null hypothesis or fail to reject it. For example, if comparison of two groups (eg: treatment, no treatment) reveals no statistically significant difference between the two, it does not mean that there is no difference in reality. It only means that you do not have enough evidence to reject the null hypothesis (in other words, you fail to reject the null hypothesis).[5] Information: It is time its undeservedly neglectet powerful role to evolution to be restored.
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Taq Member Posts: 10085 Joined: Member Rating: 5.6 |
I quote from wikipedia: It is important to understand that the null hypothesis can never be proven. Your data can only reject a null hypothesis or fail to reject it. For example, if comparison of two groups (eg: treatment, no treatment) reveals no statistically significant difference between the two, it does not mean that there is no difference in reality. It only means that you do not have enough evidence to reject the null hypothesis (in other words, you fail to reject the null hypothesis).[5] For random mutations, they have been shown to exist. They are evidenced. That is why it is the base assumption when looking at mutations. If you can not show that the results are any different than those expected from random mutations then it is assumed that they are due to random mutations because random mutations have been shown to exist. How is this a problem?
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zi ko Member (Idle past 3650 days) Posts: 578 Joined: |
The Ledergerg and Luria-Delbruck Experiments show only that "random" mutations exist, not that directed ones don't exist.
In a broad sense there aren't random mutations in relation to life and consequently to fitness, as these mutations in their "randomnes" serve life's existence This the reason why these exist. As light passing through a crystal obeys a natural law, so do mutations.They follow some laws. Here is the analogy. Information: It is time its undeservedly neglectet powerful role to evolution to be restored.
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