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dronestar
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Message 285 of 314 (605872)
02-22-2011 3:11 PM
Reply to: Message 284 by Coyote
02-22-2011 2:54 PM


Re: Still an infected monkey driver . . .
Mr. Coyote,
Surely you have read my posts. I think my record here on the forum has been consistently "peace-nik-istic."
I prefer no one be slaughtered. (Except for war criminals and human rights violators)
Thanks for contributing to a political thread which will help keep political posts on the forum in the future.

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Message 286 of 314 (605874)
02-22-2011 3:14 PM
Reply to: Message 283 by Taq
02-22-2011 2:53 PM


Re: Still an infected monkey driver . . .
Hey Taq,
There was another alternative than VETOing the UN resolution:
Abstain.
But that would hint at Obama being a liberal. Which he isn't.

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Message 289 of 314 (605879)
02-22-2011 3:49 PM
Reply to: Message 287 by Coyote
02-22-2011 3:22 PM


Re: Still an infected monkey driver . . .
Coyote writes:
"push them into the sea."
I think you are referring to the Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. He explained that while he strongly opposes the state/government of Israel, his hostility does not extend to the Israeli people: We are opposed to the idea that the people who live there should be thrown into the sea or be burnt, he said. We believe that all the people who live there, the Jews, Muslims and Christians, should take part in a free referendum and choose their government.
I'm NOT supporting Ahmadinejad, and I am NOT saying Ahmadinejad isn't a nut job, . . . I am just clarifying his quote "push them into the sea" was referring to the Israel government.
Coyote writes:
"many of Israel's neighbors have sworn to slaughter the Jews..."
"many"? Evidence please. I don't doubt there are some individuals, but you'll have to quantify "many".
Violence, repression, torture, and murder is/has been tried before. It doesn't seem to be a "real-istic" long-term solution. Given a choice, I think the vast overwhelming percentage of people in the world would choose to live in peace.
Edited by dronester, : added "individuals"

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Message 291 of 314 (605882)
02-22-2011 4:00 PM
Reply to: Message 288 by Taq
02-22-2011 3:22 PM


Re: Still an infected monkey driver . . .
Taq writes:
I've always thought of Obama as being a pragmatic liberal that moderates his stances for political reasons.
You might want to re-review the last 288 posts in this thread.

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Message 293 of 314 (605888)
02-22-2011 4:31 PM
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02-22-2011 4:09 PM


Re: Still an infected monkey driver . . .
If it is anything like your other posts I think it would be a waste of time.
Then surely you won't keep responding to my posts.
Have a good day.

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Message 300 of 314 (606010)
02-23-2011 9:36 AM
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02-22-2011 6:07 PM


Re: Still an infected monkey driver . . .
Coyote writes:
He also said, in 1967, "We are going to grind them into the ground. We are going to push them into the sea. We're going to wipe out Israel--no one will ever remember them again."
1967?
Do the Amalekites, Hittites, and Assyrians also keep you up at night in cold sweats?

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Message 301 of 314 (606011)
02-23-2011 9:45 AM
Reply to: Message 298 by ramoss
02-22-2011 11:45 PM


Name the oppressor (and the enabling infected monkey driver)
To expand Jar's sentiments Message 299:
Which side FULLY controls the other's property, human rights, laws, water supply, health care/hospitals, employment, transportation/movement, to the point of death?
Israels or the Palestinians?

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Message 303 of 314 (606015)
02-23-2011 10:15 AM
Reply to: Message 302 by jar
02-23-2011 10:02 AM


Re: Name the oppressor (and the enabling infected monkey driver)
Thanks Jar, you have some good points, but most of it is really that simple. For one thing, you only wrote about restriction, I wrote about oppression/torture/murder.
For another example, during the the Gaza War during the winter of 2008—2009, when Israel committed the war crime of collective punishment, how did Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon play a significant role?
Also during this war crime by Israel which the Israel military willfully targeted women and children, how could the Palestinians play a larger part in determining things like laws, human rights, health care and employment?
(Might I add, Obama remained silent about this war atrocity and H. Clinton dumbfoundedly spoke only how Israel needs to protect itself.)
We are going off topic, so I'll let you have the last word.
Collective punishment - Wikipedia
Edited by dronester, : added restriction/oppression verbage

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Message 312 of 314 (633783)
09-16-2011 12:48 PM


Obama, still driving the epidemic-monkey to the airport
quote:
It’s been two and a half years since we first said Obama was trying to cut Social Security. Denial is no longer possible. Barack Obama, 7/22/2011, 6:06pm ET:
We then offered an additional $650 billion in cuts to entitlement programs Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security.
http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/...caid-and-social-security
quote:
The Obama administration has pushed American political discourse to the right. Obama is effectively out hawking the Republican Party by calling for cuts in Social Security which were (until his recent overture) not even on the agenda for the Republican rank-and-file.
zcommunications.org - zcommunications Resources and Information.
Yep, any president that offers up those "entitlements," without any republican prompting, into the debt ceiling negotiations, just HAS to be a liberal. Gosh, gee, only an ignoramus could miss something like that.

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