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Dr Adequate
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Message 168 of 373 (696201)
04-13-2013 10:57 AM
Reply to: Message 167 by Alfred Maddenstein
04-13-2013 10:52 AM


Re: The cat...
Are you saying that the fresh collagen reported in Hell Creek and other dragon bones was a contamination, Inadequate?
Of course not. "The fresh collagen reported in Hell Creek and other dragon bones was a contamination" would in fact be some moronic bibble that you wrote. You can tell that by the way it appears in your post and not mine.
The issue though I am investigating here is the dragon and not the tiger or any other beast.
Well, find us some dragons. Or evidence of dragons. Until then, your investigation seems to be drawing a blank.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 170 of 373 (696224)
04-13-2013 4:16 PM
Reply to: Message 169 by Alfred Maddenstein
04-13-2013 11:51 AM


Re: The cat...
So if the collagen is as fresh as reported ...
Who reported that? The voices in your head?
The rule of necessity is any molecular motion unregulated by the living will and intelligence of death-dodging machines is decay of some sort. All is relative motion of some sort and nothing is ever keeping still. It takes the constant living effort, division of labour, vibrant communication required by the division and so on to combat the death and disintegration. No exceptions.
That would be so much more convincing if you hadn't just made it up.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 172 of 373 (696239)
04-13-2013 7:39 PM
Reply to: Message 171 by Alfred Maddenstein
04-13-2013 7:04 PM


Re: The cat...
It's in the latest Nature, Inadequate.
Your delusions are not in Nature. This is.
Your neo-darwinian gurus claim it is. The bible pushers laugh at your gurus and wipe the floor with them in any debate. Now acid dissolves eggshells and like Ecclesiastes rightly noted the passage of time leaves a sour taste. That book is not selling any nonsense like you do. It's all solid thinking. Read what it has to say on the silly simian pretences to measure anything.
We already know that creationists have duped you. You needn't belabor the point.
Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 175 of 373 (696312)
04-14-2013 11:55 AM
Reply to: Message 173 by Alfred Maddenstein
04-14-2013 12:54 AM


Re: The cat...
So, still dancing around the bush and the issue together with Coy Boy, Inadequate? Like a pretty shy girl, dear? It's either that the soft tissues can possibly take 190 million years to not finish decomposing or they can not. The cat's conclusion is that they are bound to rot much faster than that and therefore you and your whole crypto-creo bigbanger lot are greater bullshitters than the bible pushers. Nobody ain't got no slightest clue as to the age of the earth and the rest of chronology and stuff. Just like King Solomon of Ecclesiastes and the feline say. Face it. That's why the simians are currently deserting your sect in droves. The bible pushers at least have some hope on offer for them. What have you got? Nothing apart from the rotting crap off your learned mouth.
Buried in the schizophasia there appear to be some nuggets of mere delusional ideation, would you care to expand on them?
Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 182 of 373 (696378)
04-15-2013 3:48 PM
Reply to: Message 178 by Alfred Maddenstein
04-15-2013 2:12 PM


Re: The cat...
How sure are you about any single one among the string of bald assertions you just shot at the feline, Coy Boy? Dragons and simians missed each other by 65 million years, you say? You missed by a long mile what Ecclesiastes, Pliny and the feline tell you. Do you understand what 65 million years means? It's a very long distance. The only steady reference is the distance travelled by the light signal as compared to the length of your baboonish arm. A lot can happen along that way. Far too far for your grabbing action, in any case.
Now simians eat rice so did dragons as the Indian fellow who studied the composition of their shit reports. How do you explain that, Coy Boy?
If you were pretending that you weren't mentally ill, how would you have phrased that?
Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 191 of 373 (696430)
04-16-2013 1:29 AM
Reply to: Message 183 by Alfred Maddenstein
04-15-2013 4:35 PM


Re: The cat...
Translate it into Yawnish yourself, Inadequate. The feline prefers playing with you crypto-creo bigbanger quackademic mice the way he pleases.
Traditionally, cats catch mice by the exercise of their superior skill and cunning. They don't roll about in their own filth drooling while the mice mock them.
But then, as I have pointed out, you are not actually a cat.

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Message 194 of 373 (696570)
04-16-2013 10:18 PM
Reply to: Message 193 by Alfred Maddenstein
04-16-2013 7:19 PM


Re: The cat...
How do you mean real and unreal science? Are you to decide which is which for the feline, Coy Boy?
Clearly someone should. We've seen how you manage when it's left up to you. Distinguishing real things from unreal things is, how shall I put this delicately, not exactly your forte.
So, let us help you out. Dragons do not exist. You are not a cat. Creationists are not reliable sources.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 199 of 373 (696821)
04-18-2013 8:57 PM
Reply to: Message 196 by Alfred Maddenstein
04-18-2013 5:04 PM


Re: The cat...
Aren't you implying picking out the real science from the unreal is your strong suit, Doc?
Yes. Certainly I'm better at it than you.
And that you can give good guidance to the ignorant mog?
Yes, though I doubt your ability to profit by it.
Isn't it Hawk and Dawk? And Krauss the Mouse is for sure not unreal? What about Palsy Measly and Small Coyne in the Loin? Should the Cheshire trust those more than the Steady Freddy playing Harp to the superluminal dancing quasars? And what about the quasiskeptical Mickey Mouse Shermer and his army of doubting clones? Should the cat be sceptical about all that mouse is sceptical about and have faith in all it is so unhappy to see being denied? The cat heard the "skeptic" is planning to write a new book entitled "The danger of Black Holes denial". Should he hurry to purchase the learned tome as soon as it comes out, Inadequate?
Your hebephrenia is obscuring your point. If you have one.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 200 of 373 (696930)
04-19-2013 3:01 PM
Reply to: Message 197 by Alfred Maddenstein
04-18-2013 5:22 PM


Maddenstein writes:
I hope you've sobered up enough ...
Maddenstein writes:
Most dragon legends are about actual fighting the demonized beasts and it is a well known habit of the devious simian to over-demonise the enemies it massacres or wipes out completely, says the feline.
Maddenstein writes:
Some claim the Chinese are finding loads of dragon bones and stuff. Others say Dawkins and his gang collect the bones and now they are all hidden up his arse.
Maddenstein writes:
The cat has said the dragon issue is wide open. Do you get it? Are you trying to impress the moggy with the formidable size of your congregation and the choir you sing to, Coy the Expert Choir Boy? Ooh, the Cheshire is all terrified and trembling.
Maddenstein writes:
Your elk and bears red-herrings don't impress the feline.
Maddenstein writes:
Look only at the Chinese calendar, boy. They don't have years of hobbit and leprechaun, do they?
Maddenstein writes:
The cat heard an explanation that the fire spewing bit could have been based upon reality. Something analogous to bombardier beetle defence. It could have been methane produced in the dragon's belly with a mechanism to divert and ignite the mighty fart.
Maddenstein writes:
Face it, Inadequate, the Cheshire cuts your bigbangist bollocks in your native English. And he suspects you can't even mumble in his native Purrish.
Maddenstein writes:
For example, reason can establish that no big bunk creation, universal space expansion and so on are possible at all. Or that both special creation and evolution of death-dodging machines mutating from nothing are not physically possible and so on. That it takes a death-dodging machine to build another one could be deduced from the nature of the phenomenon itself so abiomagic of spontaneous generation or special creation could be understood to be physically impossible.
Maddenstein writes:
Enjoying making them sly doctorly insinuations, Inadequate? In his early kittenhood the Cheshire was traumatised by Zmei Goryinitch fairy tales, if you insist to know. Zmei Goryinitch is the traditional Russian dragon in case you ignore that. Very scary dinosaur. Spits hell-fire and steals pretty maidens.
Maddenstein writes:
The cat's conclusion is that they are bound to rot much faster than that and therefore you and your whole crypto-creo bigbanger lot are greater bullshitters than the bible pushers. Nobody ain't got no slightest clue as to the age of the earth and the rest of chronology and stuff. Just like King Solomon of Ecclesiastes and the feline say. Face it. That's why the simians are currently deserting your sect in droves.
Maddenstein writes:
If not why does your silly baboonish paw put your stupid simian measurements into the Cheshire's mouth? The Earth itself is as likely as not to be trillions of years of intrinsic age. Nobody knows. Understand? The issue here is who or what killed the dragons.
Maddenstein writes:
How sure are you about any single one among the string of bald assertions you just shot at the feline, Coy Boy? Dragons and simians missed each other by 65 million years, you say? You missed by a long mile what Ecclesiastes, Pliny and the feline tell you. Do you understand what 65 million years means? It's a very long distance. The only steady reference is the distance travelled by the light signal as compared to the length of your baboonish arm. A lot can happen along that way. Far too far for your grabbing action, in any case. Now simians eat rice so did dragons as the Indian fellow who studied the composition of their shit reports. How do you explain that, Coy Boy?
Maddenstein writes:
Blah, blah, blah, Coy Boy. Just google Vandana Prasad and dragon coprolites and you'll get the papers. Not only rice but also oats. Oryza means rice or rice-like, Avena - refers to oats and both figure in the long list of grasses consumed by the Indian dragons according to the composition of their fossilised crap.
Maddenstein writes:
Translate it into Yawnish yourself, Inadequate. The feline prefers playing with you crypto-creo bigbanger quackademic mice the way he pleases.
Maddenstein writes:
Well, Vatican. There are nonsensical beliefs galore and there are oceans of pretence to certainty about those beliefs. The firm believers whose name is multitude are easily offended by any doubt expressed. That's why there are so many of so-called trolls. He who has no faith in nonsense never fears any trolls, says the feline.
Maddenstein writes:
Cremo does not sing all of that so he is unreal science kind of thing? That is not how it goes with the Cheshire. You've got a witness opinion and Cremo got another. You and him got an equal time to state it. No favours you are hungry for are given. Contradictions found, the bollocks cut by the judge.
Maddenstein writes:
What about Palsy Measly and Small Coyne in the Loin? Should the Cheshire trust those more than the Steady Freddy playing Harp to the superluminal dancing quasars?
Maddenstein writes:
I hope you've sobered up enough ...

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Dr Adequate
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Message 202 of 373 (696948)
04-19-2013 5:13 PM
Reply to: Message 201 by Alfred Maddenstein
04-19-2013 4:48 PM


Re: The cat...
The problem with you lot is that you only worry too much about the bible-pushers and don't care to understand anything. You have no time for understanding left as you spend all of it trying to assassinate the pushers character. Do you worry the bible-peddlers might steal your customers or what, Inadequate?
Until you have taken the appropriate medication, you should hold off on trying to tell other people what their problems are.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 206 of 373 (696963)
04-19-2013 8:49 PM
Reply to: Message 203 by Alfred Maddenstein
04-19-2013 5:21 PM


Re: Quoting the Cheshire
You've done a nice quotation job, Inadequate. What do you reckon about Acambaro figurines the cat is investigating right now? Are they a fraud in your opinion? Do you reckon that the genius peasant produced all 33 400 of them? Perry Mason took up the case, found they were genuine depictions of the dragons interacting with simians and he found you are a fraud too. Are you going to sue him and Gardner?
Perry Mason is a fictional character; of course they're a fraud; and of course they were not produced by a genius. It doesn't take a genius to fool gullible people such as yourself and young earth creationists. It would take a certain degree of intelligence to fool actual archaeologists, something that has not happened.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 209 of 373 (696970)
04-19-2013 10:00 PM
Reply to: Message 208 by Alfred Maddenstein
04-19-2013 9:58 PM


Re: Quoting the Cheshire
What a jerk you are, Inadequate, on top of being such a phoney. Did you examine the case personally and on the scene like Gardner did? The cat read his meticulous account of the fishy business. There are still 20 000 figurines extant out 37 000 something originally found. The rest are lost due to jerks like yourself. The figurines are in many different styles. The artist hoaxer must have been versatile indeed. You say the workmanship is poor? Then you can easily make a few like that for the moggy? When finished send them to the Cheshire by special delivery. You quackademic idiot reckon without the cat being well versed in Spanish and reading the Mexican sources of the affair. The police and local archaeologists' reports and stuff. The same goes for Turkmenistan dragon with human tracks. There are original pre-perestroika Russian journalistic and scientific accounts to be found that the Cheshire has no trouble deciphering. Your case is getting weaker and weaker. The bible-pushers have a good motive to defraud but your sect have an excellent one to lie through their baboonish teeth too. The jury is well out.
Was that intended to be a substitute for actual argument?

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Dr Adequate
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Message 213 of 373 (696974)
04-19-2013 10:55 PM
Reply to: Message 211 by Alfred Maddenstein
04-19-2013 10:16 PM


Re: Quoting the Cheshire
Who's talking..Inadequate? Your whole argument so far boils down to insinuations of how mad is the cat and how sane and trustworthy a doc you happen to believe yourself to be. Accompanied by thumping on the baboonish breast and patting Coy Boy's baboonish back.
In the first place, that is of course not true, in the second place, those weren't insinuations, and in the third place --- you are still not a cat.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 239 of 373 (697381)
04-24-2013 5:55 PM
Reply to: Message 236 by Alfred Maddenstein
04-23-2013 9:08 PM


Re: "What ifs" again
Blah, blah, blah. More brazen bluffing from the shy girl. All the finds are either destroyed or are in Smithsonian lofts under lock and key. The cocaine and tobacco in Egyptian bellies are well tested and documented so transoceanic connection between Meso-America and the rest well before Columbus is as certain as that you lot are phonies selling snake-oil to the feline and the public. There is a Japanese tribe in Mexico and there are old Hebrew inscriptions there and so on. All that is exactly what is exhibited by the Acambaro figurines representing all kinds of simian races that should have been unknown to the locals there according to your party-line.
Well, this is incontestable evidence of dragons, because as we all know when these mythical fire-breathing lizards weren't busy ferrying Japanese people to Mexico they were kingpins in the ancient Egyptian drug trade.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 244 of 373 (697666)
04-28-2013 6:18 PM
Reply to: Message 242 by Alfred Maddenstein
04-28-2013 3:47 PM


Re: Evidence
In summary, you still can't find any dragons.
Well, come back when you have.

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