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UK's Thatcher, rot in hell . . .

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ringo
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Message 128 of 149 (696894)
04-19-2013 1:32 PM 		Reply to: Message 126 by Dr Adequate
04-19-2013 1:17 PM

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ringo writes:
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The public knew what her ideology was (or ought to have known) when they elected her. They affirmed their support for her ideology by re-electing her twice.
Except that they didn't.
Didn't what? Know what her ideology was? Or re-affirm their support?
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If she had merely been an instrument of the popular will, then that would to some degree have excused her, since if it hadn't been her it would have been someone else.
"I was only following orders," is seldom acceptable as an excuse. Whether the Brits were following her orders or she was following theirs, none of them is exculpable.
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ringo
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04-19-2013 1:48 PM 		Reply to: Message 130 by Dr Adequate
04-19-2013 1:35 PM

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Didn't vote for her.
They voted for her indirectly.
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04-20-2013 12:02 PM 		Reply to: Message 133 by Dr Adequate
04-19-2013 1:58 PM

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In none of the elections were indirect ballots cast, 'cos of there being no such thing.
On the contrary, all ballots in a representative democracy are indirect. When we vote for a representative, we know what party he/she represents and we know what principles that party represents. We are voting for those principles indirectly. The only direct vote we ever get is in a referendum.
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ringo
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04-20-2013 12:11 PM 		Reply to: Message 136 by Dr Adequate
04-19-2013 2:28 PM

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Ringo said that anyone criticizing Thatcher was thumbing his nose at democracy.
I said to dronester:
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You seem to be thumbing your nose at democracy as much as at Thatcher.
Bad reading comprehension, Doc.
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