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Author | Topic: Should countries outlaw the hijab, niqab and burka? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Greatest I am Member (Idle past 302 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
Bliyaal
Exactly. We give women the right to choose and to do so by cutting out the slave owning men's power to impose their will. It is like a slave being freed from her chains. RegardsDL
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Bliyaal Member (Idle past 2396 days) Posts: 171 From: Quebec City, Qc, Canada Joined:
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On the contrary, you want to remove a choice for them. You're the slave owner in your story.
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Omnivorous Member Posts: 3991 From: Adirondackia Joined: Member Rating: 6.9
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GIA writes: All moral people... Nearly 100 posts into this discussion, and that's still all you've got--agree with you or we're evil. We might as well be debating the Taliban. You are what you claim to loathe."If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads." Homo sum, humani nihil a me alienum puto.-Terence
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Greatest I am writes:
I didn't forget that. It isn't true. Only a minority of Muslims even support Sharia . The woman I quoted is an example of one who doesn't.
You forget that Islam's agenda is always to try to have Sharia as the law of the land. Greatest I am writes:
One of those hard-earned standards is welcoming people with diverse backgrounds and ideas.
If they do not want to live by our hard earned standards then they can stay the hell away. Greatest I am writes:
Do you like Islamophobes?
Do you like homophobes and misogyny?
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Do you also think that Nuns should be prevented from wearing a Habit?
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 302 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
Bliyaal
In a sense, we are all slaved to the law of the land and the state gives us all equality under the law. That equality is what I wish to replace the oppression of Muslim women with. You do believe in equality. Right? Do Muslim women deserve the freedom from oppression that the state gives you? RegardsDL
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 302 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
Omnivorous
I am the mirror image of what I loathe because as a Gnostic Christian, I tie equality to righteousness and if you do not, you are not a moral man. Gnostic Scriptures and Fragments: Epiphanes - On Righteousness RegardsDL
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 302 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
ringo
"One of those hard-earned standards is welcoming people with diverse backgrounds and ideas." Yes, but we do not allow a slave owning standard. Nor do we allow the oppression of women and girls. We live in a free land and it is our duty to insure that freedom, is everyone's standard. RegardsDL
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 302 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
Cat Sci
"Do you also think that Nuns should be prevented from wearing a Habit?" I think all religions that do not have equality as a part of their theology should be outlawed as the law of the land gives us all equality. Are nuns second class citizens or considered inferior to the organization or within their church? Yes they are. Should Canada as a country support such a notion and allow it on it's land. No. All Canadian women should be and demand equal status to all men. RegardsDL
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We live in a free land and it is our duty to insure that freedom, is everyone's standard. Including the freedom to wear what you want? Or not?
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All Canadian women should be and demand equal status to all men. Except for when it comes to choosing their wardrobe, then they don't get equal status to men by having the freedom to wear what they want, they can only wear clothes that you approve of.
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 302 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
Cat Sci
Not if the majority rules against it like it did in France and other countries. If it will not tolerate slave garb then that is the law. RegardsDL
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 302 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
Cat Sci
Me?? This is not about me. What I want is not really relevant in terms of authority. Think of the issue and not the personal. RegardsDL
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Greatest I am writes:
And you're the one who wants to oppress women and girls by telling them what to wear. We won't allow you to do that.
Nor do we allow the oppression of women and girls.
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Blue Jay Member (Idle past 2726 days) Posts: 2843 From: You couldn't pronounce it with your mouthparts Joined: |
Hi, GIA.
GIA writes: What is every law we have on the books if not forced conformity? Indeed. Then logically, before we pass a law, we should make sure there is pretty good evidence that the benefits of forced conformity will outweigh the detriments. Or are you proposing that this semantic game you're playing is adequate justification for forcing conformity arbitrarily?
GIA writes: Democracy is the tyranny of the majority. ...which we all agree is a bad thing, right? That's why democratic nations build into their constitutions things like a "Bill of Rights" and a system of checks and balances: to protect individual liberties and prevent one group from dominating all the others.-Blue Jay, Ph.D.* *Yeah, it's real Darwin loves you.
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