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DrJones* Member Posts: 2290 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 6.9
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Testimonials are evidence where I come from.
And where did this woman testify that her husband (who she is separated from) was forcing her to wear the hijab?It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds soon I discovered that this rock thing was true Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world And so there was only one thing I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8563 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
The judge said that it was a religious symbol which are not allowed in court - the court being a secular institution with no religious symbols anywhere - then compared her scarf to a hat or sunglasses. Weird. I wonder if this judge refuses hearing the cases of women who show up wearing one of those small gold crosses on their necklace. I doubt it.
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Greatest I am writes:
Testimonials are not universal. Your claim is equivalent to saying that if one woman says she has a sore foot, then all women have sore feet. Not true. It only applies to the ones who actually testify. Testimonials are evidence where I come from. So it still boils down to you wanting to dictate what women wear.
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Bliyaal Member (Idle past 2396 days) Posts: 171 From: Quebec City, Qc, Canada Joined: |
From this this news linked in the description of the video :
During the proceeding, Judge Marengo cited Article 13 of the regulations of the Court of Quebec. That article states: "Any person appearing before the court must be suitably dressed." You can read the full text of the regulations here. My opinion is that the judge was completely wrong but she should get along well with GIA. They should have a beer. Edited by Bliyaal, : No reason given.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8563 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7
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My opinion is that the judge was completely wrong but she should get along well with GIA. They should have a beer. Can't be done. The judge in question is a she and GIA would try to tell her how to dress and she would throttle him before they got to the bar.
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 302 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
Modulous
Quite possibly not but her culture and peers are likely doing so. Every story will be different but our duty is to extend the freedoms we have earned to all within our borders and we will get the best bang for the buck by outlawing the signs of slavery that the garb in question represents. RegardsDL
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 302 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
DrJones
You are as aware of her statements as I am. She is just one of many though. If you do not already think that Islam is a misogynous religion then I will not be able to convince you. I cannot reason with a closed mind who does not know good moral action and finds no evil in Islam. RegardsDL
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 302 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
ringo
For my own moral reasons. Absolutely. What do you find lacking in my moral position? Is it not the first priority of as free person to insure that all his fellow citizens share in that freedom? RegardsDL
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 302 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
Bliyaal
I would be in good company then. The U.K. is going my way, as they should. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BaqU_kLJco RegardsDL
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2290 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 6.9 |
You are as aware of her statements as I am. She is just one of many though.
so you an't support your claim that she was forced into the wearing the hijab
I cannot reason with a closed mind who does not know good moral action... says the guy who wants to discriminate against people based on their religion
... and finds no evil in Islam
people are evil, and evil people exist regardless of what religion they claim to be a part of. Saying all muslims are bad is just as wrong as saying all jews are bad.It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds soon I discovered that this rock thing was true Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world And so there was only one thing I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Greatest I am writes:
I've told you several times: I find it morally repugnant that you want to tell Muslim women what to wear. If they choose freely to wear the hijab, you want to prevent them from doing so.
What do you find lacking in my moral position? Greatest I am writes:
So why do you want to take away the woman's right to choose?
Is it not the first priority of as free person to insure that all his fellow citizens share in that freedom?
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 302 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
DrJones
To say that Islam or Christianity is good would be quite the lie given all the murders they have committed. But you go ahead and respect what does not deserve it. Tell us why you respect religionists, and Muslims in this case, who believe that it is ok to cut hands off of thieves and who will stone to death women who have been raped? Or how about your respect for these thought police. 2002 Mecca girls' school fire - Wikipedia RegardsDL
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 302 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
ringo
I do not want to remove a woman's right to choose. I do want to remove the oppression of their Muslim husbands and fathers who force them to wear what they choose. I want to free slaves while you do nothing. RegardsDL
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2290 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 6.9 |
Tell us why you respect religionists, and Muslims in this case, who believe that it is ok to cut hands off of thieves and who will stone to death women who have been raped?
I don't respect them, but they are not all muslims. Tell me why i should respect some one who wants to dictate to women what they can and can't wear? Or how about your respect for these thought police.It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds soon I discovered that this rock thing was true Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world And so there was only one thing I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 302 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
DrJones
"Tell me why i should respect some one who wants to dictate to women what they can and can't wear?" You should not unless it is to rid free nations of those who promote slavery, as in this case. A democracy has the right to tell it's citizens how to dress. Most have some type of dress code. Individual Muslim men do not have that right. RegardsDL
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