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Author | Topic: Should countries outlaw the hijab, niqab and burka? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Greatest I am writes:
Free nations don't tell their people what to wear.
Plus signs of slavery should not be allowed in a free nation.
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 302 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
ringo
Try going outside naked. Come back and repeat your idiocy. RegardsDL
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Greatest I am writes:
I don't wear clothes because the government forces me to. Try going outside naked. But we should aspire to be a nation that imposes fewer restrictions, not more. I do not support nudity bans.
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
Lol, fathers and mothers already dictate what their young children will wear, and yet you don't recognize that. Instead you set up a straw man in which to attack by attempting to appeal to Ringo's sensibilities which detests men dictating what women should wear, as if it conflicts with Western values.
But the bottom line is that, for however inappropriate it may be for a man to dictate how his wife ought to dress, it's even more inappropriate for an entire nation to dictate how one should dress. Banning clothes will only reinforce people's desire to wear them. In other words, it would fail and would only serve to alienate people Edited by AdminPhat, : No reason given."Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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Phat Member Posts: 18348 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
This was an interesting recent development.
Quebec judge wouldn't hear case of woman wearing hijab Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
This was an interesting recent development. Quebec judge wouldn't hear case of woman wearing hijab Here is a sample of the commentary regarding that video.
quote: Sad. Just plain disgusting. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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Tangle Member Posts: 9512 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.8 |
Phat writes: This was an interesting recent development. Well I think that's just plain wrong. She was wearing a headscarf, not a face covering. Surely there are precedents for that in Canada? The judge said that it was a religious symbol which are not allowed in court - the court being a secular institution with no religious symbols anywhere - then compared her scarf to a hat or sunglasses. Weird. Do Canadians not offer their witness to swear oaths on their holy books or does everyone have to affirm? That seems to me to be a denial of access to justice for nothing more than a clothing preference.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 302 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
Hyroglyphx
Indeed. "and would only serve to alienate people" Hopefully the misogynous Muslim men who deny their women first class citizenship. Certainly not the women being forced. RegardsDL
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 302 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
NoNukes
You are showing your own bias. What is wrong with, when in Rome, following Rome's laws? What rules your country? A Government or a God? RegardsDL Edited by Greatest I am, : No reason given.
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 302 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
Tangle
The access to justice is her not having her husband force her to wear what he wants. Access to justice means access to freedom from Muslim male oppression. RegardsDL
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2290 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 6.9
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The access to justice is her not having her husband force her to wear what he wants.
And what evidence do you have that her husband forced her to wear the hijab?It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds soon I discovered that this rock thing was true Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world And so there was only one thing I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 302 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
DrJones
Just the testimonials of the women and my knowledge of Islam. That and knowing that Sharia is not compatible with a freedom loving people. RegardsD
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2290 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 6.9
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so you have no evidence that this woman was forced into wearing the hijab or that she is being oppressed by her husband.
It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds soon I discovered that this rock thing was true Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world And so there was only one thing I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 302 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
Testimonials are evidence where I come from.
Unlike Sharia law, the testimony of one woman has as much value as the testimony of one man in my country. RegardsDL
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Modulous Member Posts: 7801 From: Manchester, UK Joined:
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Testimonials are evidence where I come from...the testimony of one woman has as much value as the testimony of one man in my country. How about this testimonial from a headscarf wearing woman:
quote: Her husband can't be forcing her...so....?
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