Should countries outlaw the hijab, niqab and burka?

And you're the one who wants to oppress women and girls by telling them what to wear. We won't allow you to do that.

The majority DID rule in Canada and booted out the only party that agrees with you. That's the antithesis of democracy. We have to protect the rights of minorities because in the end we're all a minority of one.In Message 31 you quoted Niemoller:

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"First they came for the Jews, but I did nothing because I'm not a Jew. Then they came for the socialists, but I did nothing because I'm not a socialist. Then they came for the Catholics, but I did nothing because I'm not a Catholic. Finally, they came for me, but by then there was no one left to help me."

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"They" is you. You are coming for the Muslims. Hopefully "we" will not make the same mistake that Niemoller lamented by failing to protect them from you.

I want to protect the rights of Muslim WOMEN to wear what THEY decide. I quoted a woman who WANTS to wear they hijab but YOU would prevent her.

We have laws against pedophilia to prescribe how we punish pedophiles that are caught. How do you propose to punish women who are caught wearing the hijab? Then the "free women" who are doing the assaulting are the ones who should be punished, not the victims. You are the one who is advocating abuse of women.

It's abuse to tell women that they can not wear the hijab, niqab or burka if they want to. You want to ban the hijab, niqab and burka - i.e. you are advocating a law that would abuse women.

Nope. Your Bill of Rights guarantees individual rights, basically in defiance of majority opinion.

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"When he tells you howdy, he's told you all he knows."
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We had a few flakes of snow on Tuesday night. It's pretty soggy this morning but it's supposed to shoot up to 10 degrees Celsius this afternoon. They do once in a while but I only drink coffee in the evening. I was responding to your Message 158 where you said, "I don't see that it says any such thing," referring to your Constitution, as mentioned by GIA in Message 151. I was just pointing out that your claim that the majority rules is false. Living in Saskatchewan, it's hard to get upset about global warming. As a friend of mine said, "El Nino is my friend." Worst case scenario: Vancouver will be under water and Kamloops will be our port on the Pacific.

Yes, and as your own quote says, violation of minority rights is oppression. You over-use "political correctness" as a swear-word. It properly refers to people who pretend to espouse equality for political or economic reasons - a President who woos the Hispanic vote while planning a Berlin Wall to keep Mexicans out of the country or a retail chain CEO who woos black customers while refusing to promote black people above cashier.It does not apply to everybody who actually supports equality.

Indeed it is:

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All . . . will bear in mind this sacred principle, that though the will of the majority is in all cases to prevail, that will to be rightful must be reasonable; that the minority possess their equal rights, which equal law must protect and to violate would be oppression.

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It says directly that THOUGH the will of the majority prevails, it is a SACRED principle that the minority possesses equal rights. Jefferson does NOT agree with you. No. It is a bad thing to treat people unequally. It is also a bad thing to say one thing and do another. BUT it is a good thing to profess belief in equality. The bad part of political correctness is not the saying, it's the lack of doing.

The difference is that it's YOU abusing the few. And you not only want the right to abuse women yourself; you also want to implicate ALL Canadians in your abuse by institutionalizing it.It's far, far better for us to approach the abuse of women in a constructive way instead of adding to the problem like you want to do.

That's what I'm asking you: Why should we allow you to forbid a woman from wearing the hijab, niqab or burka if she wants to?

Free nations don't tell their people what to wear.

I don't wear clothes because the government forces me to.But we should aspire to be a nation that imposes fewer restrictions, not more. I do not support nudity bans.

Testimonials are not universal. Your claim is equivalent to saying that if one woman says she has a sore foot, then all women have sore feet. Not true. It only applies to the ones who actually testify.So it still boils down to you wanting to dictate what women wear.