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scottyranks
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Message 91 of 171 (81875)
01-31-2004 8:14 PM
Reply to: Message 90 by nator
01-30-2004 9:22 PM


Re: Christian Consistency Would Be Dangerous For Some Christians
After stumbling upon this site, and reading through several hours of past posts, I am...bemused. Without a doubt most here are extremely intelligent. Much smarter than me... Much debate back and forth over issues of God, the universe, atheist etc. There would be no debate if anything could be proven. An atheist is simply someone who does not believe in God. A "Christian" believes in one God, and the virgin birth of God's son, Jesus. Christians believe in the teachings of the Bible. That teaching includes trying to "convince" others of their beliefs. We are all somewhat a product of our environment. Whatever belief "you" (and I am speaking to anyone) hold has ben shaped by many factors. Your parents, your peers, your experiences.
I am a Christian. Not raised one, but had several influences that led me to Christ. I can not, and will not try to debate on this or any forum the existance of my God or any other. There would be no word "faith" if we had a videotape of the entire history of time.
So, in a simplistic way, which I am sure will drive some crazy, my heart, mind and soul lead me to follow Christ. I can not prove it through moral thoery, evolution, big bang, or a clever combination. Just as I can not prove his existence, so can no one prove the contrary. But, the way I feel, the way I live my life, the satisfaction I feel based upon my beliefs is enough for me. That is the only way I can come close to "convincing someone" to believe in Jesus. Human nature is very strange, we will all always question. The driving force behind most of our culture, and most recorded civilizations is the desire to belong. I believe, with no proof, that that desire is for God.
I hope I did not offend anyone, intellectually or otherwise. ...scott

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scottyranks
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Message 93 of 171 (81878)
01-31-2004 8:28 PM
Reply to: Message 92 by NosyNed
01-31-2004 8:19 PM


Re: Christian Consistency Would Be Dangerous For Some Christians
Please explain the last comment "common sense isn't". I think I understand, so briefly will do if you do not have much time.

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scottyranks
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Message 95 of 171 (81883)
01-31-2004 8:46 PM
Reply to: Message 94 by crashfrog
01-31-2004 8:41 PM


Re: Christian Consistency Would Be Dangerous For Some Christians
Or maybe I have little because I did not realize that was his signature text...Maybe he is psychic!

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scottyranks
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Message 97 of 171 (81886)
01-31-2004 9:01 PM
Reply to: Message 92 by NosyNed
01-31-2004 8:19 PM


Re: Christian Consistency Would Be Dangerous For Some Christians
Per your reply, Ned, does that mean I am less observant and not as skilled at reasoning? This is a friendly question by the way... scott

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scottyranks
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Message 109 of 171 (82265)
02-02-2004 6:27 PM
Reply to: Message 99 by NosyNed
02-02-2004 1:55 AM


Re: Reasoning
Faith seperate from reasoning? That is interesting. Is it not possible that you arrive at faith through reasoning.
Tell me if this assuption is correct. Most "non-believers"(for lack of a better term) have problems with the bible, not God. Christians who take the Bible literally, without reasoning make most here upset.
Is that a correct statement?
To go further, What do you think of a person who believes in God, the virgin birth, and the 2nd coming of Christ but thinks the Bible includes many truths, but also many stories that support God and Jesus teachings but may or may not be 100% accurate.

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scottyranks
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Message 118 of 171 (82365)
02-02-2004 9:37 PM
Reply to: Message 111 by NosyNed
02-02-2004 6:49 PM


Re: Christian Consistency Would Be Dangerous For Some Christians
By saying "demonstrated to you that is true" makes me ask this question. And please forgive the mystical tone... What is Truth? Is it a set of facts that point towards a probable conclusion? Or does the word probable mean there can be no "truth"? I think there is a fine line between your definition of faith, and your definiton of evidence based reasoning. Our viewpoints, from the limited I have read of your posts, are similar in many ways. In your opinin what makes people with similar viewpoints have different ideas about God? Parents? Friends? Environment in general? Just curious as to your opinion.

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