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Message 24 of 171 (81038)
01-27-2004 3:27 AM
Reply to: Message 15 by roboto85
01-26-2004 10:49 PM


roboto85
You state.
. Yes, in many matters of religion there are things that are left unexplained, but the MAJOR things are easily explained.
What major things are easily explained my friend.

'Everyone is entitled to his own opinion but not his own facts.'
(Daniel Patrick Moynihan)

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Message 48 of 171 (81313)
01-28-2004 8:33 AM
Reply to: Message 28 by roboto85
01-27-2004 6:02 PM


roboto85
Okay so can you show me why we are here,where we are going or can you merely give us your opinion of what you believe is the answer?
It is easy to claim that we understand why we are here but it has never been my observation that this is any thing more than wishful thinking in the face of our mortality.In this statement
why life can either be happy and fulfilling, or miserable and pointless...
I fail to see where you can assume that you life is any more fulfilling or happy than anyone else's.In my understanding happiness or sadness is a direct relation to our expectations of the world and not the world itself which is neutral to our human needs and fears.
And this sentence
Science attempts to explain the same things by giving technical reasons
is true in so far as the limits of what sience can say about the world goes but those limits exclude questions about why things are the way they are.As near as science can tell the world does appear pointless which is not to be surprising. Since humans are the ones who demand there be a reason for everything it is difficult to restrain our very human need for an answer to the universe.
But the universe is not under obligation to humans to supply answers and the simplist explanation for this is that there are no answers to be found.
Yes it is difficult to face up to our mortality when we demand that we be important and we be the reason for existence but I personaly do not see it that way.It is my feeling that being alive only for a short time and uncertain of when that time is over makes me think that the purpose of life is what we forge into the world by our efforts.We are not important but the race of humans is if we wish to grow up to our responsibilties to those who will occupy the planet after our time here is gone.
Science only increases our wonder of things IMO and does not diminish it except in how we choose to apply our knowledge.

'Everyone is entitled to his own opinion but not his own facts.'
(Daniel Patrick Moynihan)

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Message 60 of 171 (81429)
01-29-2004 1:33 AM
Reply to: Message 57 by grace2u
01-28-2004 7:55 PM


Re: Christian Consistency Would Be Dangerous For Some Christians
grace2u
The argument I am presenting you with is an argument from transcendental necessity.
What the bloody blue blazes is "trancendental neccesity" ?

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