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Author Topic:   Atheism: an irrational philosophical system
nator
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Message 64 of 171 (81454)
01-29-2004 9:16 AM
Reply to: Message 57 by grace2u
01-28-2004 7:55 PM


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Hi Grace,
I was wondering if you are planning to respond to me in the "Confused" topic in this forum?
I notice that you have become involved in other topics but I'd really appreciate a reply.

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Message 90 of 171 (81731)
01-30-2004 9:22 PM
Reply to: Message 84 by grace2u
01-29-2004 6:16 PM


Re: Christian Consistency Would Be Dangerous For Some Christians
grace, please indicate if you intend to reply to me in the "Confused" topic in this forum.

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nator
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Message 156 of 171 (86052)
02-13-2004 9:57 AM
Reply to: Message 144 by yumbrad
02-09-2004 9:50 PM


Re: For every question, another answer..another question.
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My faith/worldview/belief system rests on the person of Jesus Christ. I got excited by the fact that He seemed to love me, and seemed able to communicate that love to me in myriad, diverse ways. I gave my life to Him because of that love, which I tested according to His invitation, and found to be infallible and true. The whallop of a bonus I got was a consistent worldview, a way to live and deal with things like the 'heat of the moment', and a way to love others (especially my wife - such that I am not using her for my own ends).
Um, eew.
You need religion to not see your wife as something to "use for your own ends"?
And here I thought that not using people for one's own ends was just common human decency.
Of course, depending upon which religious male I have spoken with, I have gotten several different views of how women should be treated, and they all said that their way was sanctioned by God.
So, what stripe are you? Do you believe that you are the leader in your marriage?

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Message 165 of 171 (88953)
02-26-2004 10:54 PM
Reply to: Message 164 by kendemyer
02-26-2004 9:36 PM


Re: to: grace2u
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So this brings us to the question on how atheism has been promulgated in history or communities where it has power. I think you will invariably find suppression.
Oh, yeah, and the suppression of differing views was never undertaken by Christains or other dominant religious groups. The forced conversions of native peoples by Christian missionaries all over the world? Never happened, right?
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and even recent history the Bible has been burned and banned.
Can you give some examples of Bible burnings or bannings? I could only find one report of the Bible being banned in Malaysia, but no reports of burnings. Certainly, nothing in the US.
By contrast, there have been many, many Christian-led book bannings and some book burnings (Harry Potter books were burned) in just the US diring just the last couple of decades. In fact, several of the most commonly banned books were those that I was required to study in high school.
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Yet, I have found in history no materialist martyrs.
Um, isn't that an oxymoron?
A materialist, by definition, would have a greater stake in staying alive than a religious martyr, as the materialist does not believe that by sacrificing themselves that they will get a great reward in the afterlife.

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Message 167 of 171 (89303)
02-28-2004 7:02 PM
Reply to: Message 166 by kendemyer
02-27-2004 1:24 PM


Re: atheism and irrational
The comment about materialist martyrs was just an aside opinion and not really the meat of my post. The following is what I'd like you to address from my last post to you. I'll paste it below:
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and even recent history the Bible has been burned and banned.
quote:
Can you give some examples of Bible burnings or bannings? I could only find one report of the Bible being banned in Malaysia, but no reports of burnings. Certainly, nothing in the US.
By contrast, there have been many, many Christian-led book bannings and some book burnings (Harry Potter books were burned) in just the US diring just the last couple of decades. In fact, several of the most commonly banned books were those that I was required to study in high school.

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