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Capt Stormfield Member Posts: 429 From: Vancouver Island Joined: |
...the story that he was a bastard born of the marital infidelity of Mary. That's just Ockham's razor in action. It only hurts if you're a whisker.
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Capt Stormfield Member Posts: 429 From: Vancouver Island Joined: |
In the rational world, no unsubstantiated claim goes unchallenged. Fixed it for you. The shaving cream probably got in your mind's eye.
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Capt Stormfield Member Posts: 429 From: Vancouver Island Joined: |
Falsely quoting someone is a serious offense. Oh dear, you're not taking yourself seriously again are you?Be assured, no one else does. Well, except for the generic caution about the danger of ignorant, ideologically blinded people in large numbers.
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Capt Stormfield Member Posts: 429 From: Vancouver Island Joined: |
It only speaks volumes to those with a an ingrained prejudice against everything I say. You're projecting again.My contempt for your claims comes from being raised a creationist and understanding first-hand the lack of honesty evinced by believers when they are asked to confront evidence. I hope you don't imagine there is even a shred of originality in your dissembling.
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Capt Stormfield Member Posts: 429 From: Vancouver Island Joined:
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Then, to add insult to injury, you tell them that they are lying, which is not taken lightly when they see themselves as merely a YEC presenting an alternate explanation for how reality played out. Thats all I'm saying. It's the "...merely a YEC" part that throws a bit of a monkey wrench into the whole attempt to spare individual feelings. Declaring oneself a YEC carries with it specific, testable claims about the physical world. Adherents also make implicit and explicit claims regarding the intellectual honesty of the scientific community. The time has long passed when it can be pretended that those claims can be reconciled with reality. When you make an explicit claim that contradicts the findings of a particular scientific field, and when those claims have been debunked repeatably, ignorance is no longer an excuse. Unless YECs wish to assume the cloak of stupidity or intellectual dysfunction, they are lying. They deserve better than the bigotry of low expectations. Generations of individuals have been facilitated in the their dysfunction by misdirected politeness.
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Capt Stormfield Member Posts: 429 From: Vancouver Island Joined:
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Yet I imagine that telling scientists that their perceptions have been misdirected by an evil, invisible, magic space lizard is just what? Witnessing?
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Capt Stormfield Member Posts: 429 From: Vancouver Island Joined:
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Why is it that religious people are so quick to reach for the dictionary and so slow to use their moral sense?
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Capt Stormfield Member Posts: 429 From: Vancouver Island Joined: |
To clarify, the word "know'' is a minefield. From the outside, the willful compartmentalization of knowledge in the religious is transparently obvious, and an obvious lie, with the religious themselves being the primary target of their own lies.
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Capt Stormfield Member Posts: 429 From: Vancouver Island Joined:
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If you really believe that "knowing good and evil" was an improvement on our original condition, or that the Bible seems to say that, while we lost touch with our Creator and had to toil for a living among thorns and bear children in agony and suffer all kinds of sufferings, hideous diseases and death and murder and mayhem, you are stuck accepting a hostile environment as an improvement, a hostile God, a benevolent Satan who nevertheless tyrannizes us, a world of pain and death as opposed to the original Creation. You do all accept all that, don't you? You think it's normal. I guess I can't talk you out of it. You think that's a good thing, I don't, but you are stuck with it given your view of the eating of the apple. Anything to render the Bible meaningless I guess. In the end of course you just have to give up on it, no matter how clearly our actual reality fits the biblical description of its consequences. I'm sure you don't really feel you are "like God" -- either the true omnipotent good God or the evil God you think the Bible talks about. What an eloquent paean to the lost opportunity for an eternity of blind, boot-licking ignorance. It's a puzzle to me why primitive Christians aspire to be the sort of slave that lacks not just the will for freedom, but even the ability to imagine it. It's inspiring to see you working so hard to recreate this lost opportunity, though. As an aside, it may surprise you to learn that saying "...how clearly our actual reality fits the biblical description of its consequences" is more than a bit meaningless. Is it your impression that the authors of the Bible weren't already surrounded by the human condition they describe? Did it occur to you that women had been bemoaning labor pains for quite some time before Genesis was written?
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Capt Stormfield Member Posts: 429 From: Vancouver Island Joined: |
I know that the Bible was Spirit-breathed by God... Well, thank Christ you avoided those "superstitious ideas" the Catholics have. Self-awareness not really your shtick, is it.
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Capt Stormfield Member Posts: 429 From: Vancouver Island Joined: |
...there are valid reasons for people to think that way today. Show me why you feel that is wrong. You seem to have missed the whole "burden of proof" thing. People today believe for precisely the same reason they believed ten thousand years ago: Ignorance and tribalism. In the spirit of your own post, prove me wrong.
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