Is The World Getting Better Or Worse?

Right. We're the vermin. Got the concentration camps ready for us?

You said science works. Well of course real science works. As for prehistoric science there's no way to ever test it. But as for global warming the science is always making predictions that go bust. I just heard some read on the radio and looked up the source which is somebody Nolte quoted on Breitbart. 41 failed climate doomsday preditions since the sixties.The record is even worse than that for failed Christian prophecies of the End.Here's the list:LIST OF DOOMSDAY PREDICTIONS THE CLIMATE ALARMIST GOT WRONG
Here is the source for numbers 1-27. As you will see, the individual sources are not crackpots, but scientific studies and media reports on expert predictions. The sources for numbers 28-41 are linked individually.
1967: Dire Famine Forecast By 1975
1969: Everyone Will Disappear In a Cloud Of Blue Steam By 1989 (1969)
1970: Ice Age By 2000
1970: America Subject to Water Rationing By 1974 and Food Rationing By 1980
1971: New Ice Age Coming By 2020 or 2030
1972: New Ice Age By 2070
1974: Space Satellites Show New Ice Age Coming Fast
1974: Another Ice Age?
1974: Ozone Depletion a ‘Great Peril to Life
1976: Scientific Consensus Planet Cooling, Famines imminent
1980: Acid Rain Kills Life In Lakes
1978: No End in Sight to 30-Year Cooling Trend
1988: Regional Droughts (that never happened) in 1990s
1988: Temperatures in DC Will Hit Record Highs
1988: Maldive Islands will Be Underwater by 2018 (they’re not)
1989: Rising Sea Levels will Obliterate Nations if Nothing Done by 2000
1989: New York City’s West Side Highway Underwater by 2019 (it’s not)
2000: Children Won’t Know what Snow Is
2002: Famine In 10 Years If We Don’t Give Up Eating Fish, Meat, and Dairy
2004: Britain will Be Siberia by 2024
2008: Arctic will Be Ice Free by 2018
2008: Climate Genius Al Gore Predicts Ice-Free Arctic by 2013
2009: Climate Genius Prince Charles Says we Have 96 Months to Save World
2009: UK Prime Minister Says 50 Days to ‘Save The Planet From Catastrophe’
2009: Climate Genius Al Gore Moves 2013 Prediction of Ice-Free Arctic to 2014
2013: Arctic Ice-Free by 2015
2014: Only 500 Days Before ‘Climate Chaos’
1968: Overpopulation Will Spread Worldwide
1970: World Will Use Up All its Natural Resources
1966: Oil Gone in Ten Years
1972: Oil Depleted in 20 Years
1977: Department of Energy Says Oil will Peak in 90s
1980: Peak Oil In 2000
1996: Peak Oil in 2020
2002: Peak Oil in 2010
2006: Super Hurricanes!
2005 : Manhattan Underwater by 2015
1970: Urban Citizens Will Require Gas Masks by 1985
1970: Nitrogen buildup Will Make All Land Unusable
1970: Decaying Pollution Will Kill all the Fish
1970s: Killer Bees!Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Facts are facts are they not? Breitbart merely reported them. Are you saying there were no such predictions by scientific sources?Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Here's the source page for the first 28 on the list, seems to be mostly media reports of scientific statements.The others are individually linked from the Breitbart page.Such as this link for #29 from a mining publication.Looks to me like a pretty good job was done with collecting the evidence. But I'm nave, right, sweetheart?Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

I'd say pretty much the same about CNN, MSNBC, the NY Times and so on.But be that as it may please refer me to the prediction YOU consider to be valid. How about Ocasio-Cortez's dozen years? You said the information has been out for decades, can you please point me to the sources of it you consider to be trustworthy.PLEASE DO NOT DROWN ME IN TONS OF VERBIAGE.Thank you.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

I must protest and complain that this is an internet forum. not a university, and posters are supposed to avoid bare links and quote a portion of the reference, which may be all we end up discussing,.HOWEVER, I'm going to try to read most of that stuff.

That was great, thanks. REAL SCIENCE is always interesting and I want to watch it again. Wait till we get back to the predictions and the statistics though, I suspect the science will get shaky.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

WOH! You're a moderator here? Ever read the rule about arguing the topic not the person?Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Liberal friend wanted me to watch Gore's film, "An Inconvenient Truth" so I'm watching it. First part agrees with this video but then he mentions that leaf decay puts CO2 back into the atmosphere. That startled me because I was hoping that the fact plants breathe out oxygen could help mitigate the increase in CO2. The video starts out talking about the great input of oxygen by the Amazon rain forest which is being lost by its burning for instance. So I looked it up and MIT says the leaf decay accounts for, YIKES! 98% of the CO2 in the atmosphere!My eyes started hurting so I couldn't read more for now, but doesn't this raise the question why so much is being made of Big Carbon if leaf decay alone accounts for that much of the carbon in the atmosphere?Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Excuse me but if our contribution is less than 2% of the problem, the loss to the wellbeing of society hardly seems worth such an exertion of control. Control of Nothing it seems to me. The carbon is going to go on increasing so warming will go on increasing. Destroying civilization for our small part, no. And besides, point the finger at China for a change. Or the burning oil fields in Saudi Arabia. We're doing our part already.AbE and if leaf decay accounts for 98% and termite methane accounts for more than all the cows (anad methane has something to do with te carbon level too), and China's pollution and Saudi oil account for more than our share, you want us to destroy our own oil production for the sake of our part which must be some small percentage of 1% when you get it all calculated out? COME ON!Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Now I can't find the 98%. This drives me crazy. But I found 90% on the MIT page: It doesn't confine it to a percentage of natural sources.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Not on the level of atomic particles, but on the level of statistics and predictions and even estimated percentages of atmospheric gasses the human factor can be very shaky.

The US has reduced our carbon emissions and our air and water are both cleaner than in other nations. (Just as an aside, I heard the statistic yesterday I think that the plastic refuse that is littering the oceans is 80% from Asian nations, the rest from western nations. In the same report it was said that science is working on ways to dissolve plastic to solve this problem. I wonder what the dissolved chemical remains will be.)Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

So when you have the new figures please report them.

I'm struggling mightily to read anything lately, my eyes are getting that bad. Would it be possible for you to quote the most relevant parts of that site? Thanks.