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sidelined Member (Idle past 5939 days) Posts: 3435 From: Edmonton Alberta Canada Joined: |
arkathon
Ok let us simplfy this.If the universe were to be magically frozen in position at this moment would time exist? Why or why not?
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JonF Member (Idle past 199 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
It is with some relish that I wait for the cosmos to be conceeded Ain't gonna happen. You're a loon posting nonsensical gibberish. People may get tired of replying to your pointless posts, but nobody's going to agree with you or accede to your claims. Thhere's a story about Wolfgang Pauli:
quote: What you write is so incredibly fallacious, it's got a long way to go before it gets to be just wrong.
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simple  Inactive Member |
quote:OK so it's hit and miss, and miss, and miss. quote:Then why do you want me to do some? If you can't see the invisible, how do you think invisible math will grab you? You don't even think the visible math is science! quote:Hey, lighten up! Perhaps one day, you may see it may not even be as dark as you guess? quote:Thank you! Nice to know what I'm up against. The last poster didn't seem to want to say where he thought the speck came from. quote:So why is it wrong to say Marilyn Monroe essentially came from some bacteria long long ago. No one said she directly crawled out of your imaginary pond in a swimsuit. quote:It's not that the guy isn't brilliant, or that he doesn't take some accepted concepts. It is that, the physical universe can not be bent too far out of shape, or time, so in carrying a concept to an extreme, you get extremely far out in a hurry. But he doesn't seem to stop there, just way beyond reason, he seems to have nothing better to do than to go way, way, way beyong even that. (on some things) quote:Right, and the witnessed event, 6 ways from sunday ought to clue you in that maybe there are limits to physical law, when considering the other universe! quote:Or it was a simple act of science from the other side, that you are inept at discerning so far. Staying in denial may not be the best course here. Admit you're boxed in with one sided physical limitations, try your best to add in the known other side, and I wouldn't be surprised if you made some real progress. quote:As far as speck evidence you refer to, is it not true that to get to a speck you have to get way past the known limits of a creation time? So who would try to go to this imaginary place, where no God exists, and we pop from a speck, at such a cost? Who would want also to ignore the whole supernatural phenomenon that most admit? Why be in denial of the obvious, and try to claim science is forever in a box?
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RingoKid Inactive Member |
nothing is perfect
in the space where nothing exists will one find perfection the perfect nothing SEEK you're better off looking for that Arkathon...
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simple  Inactive Member |
quote:The new merged universe is well predicted. quote:Actually, in a way it is. Because only a little bit of time now seperates the worlds, say, 10 years. Therefore this major merge is a lot closer that even your closest star! Which would be say, thousands of light years away. Not only that but there are many known crossovers between the universes now! Every time someone dies, for some. How about the other direction? UFOs? Angels, ghosts, every birth, for another. A lot of traffic both ways. Observable? Well, can we observe, even in a lab, a mother and child? Is not love observable? Do not humans have a soul? Or is it just the few grams of chemicals? You make science sound so utterly retarded and limited, that it misses not only the other universe, but all the important things in this one. I don't think it's as bad as you paint it. quote:Oh yes, speaking of your universe producing speck, where did it come from? When's the last time also you observed it? Embarrassed? Not I. You guys ought to be downright redshift faced.
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sidelined Member (Idle past 5939 days) Posts: 3435 From: Edmonton Alberta Canada Joined: |
arkathon
You state.
Because only a little bit of time now seperates the worlds, say, 10 years. Therefore this major merge is a lot closer that even your closest star! Which would be say, thousands of light years away I believe that the nearest star is on the order of 4 LY from earth in alpha centauri.
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NosyNed Member Posts: 9004 From: Canada Joined: |
Still wondering why you don't want to discuss the age of the earth iteself. Can you explain that?
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Beercules Inactive Member |
quote:Oh? What predictions about the observable universe does this little idea of yours make? What natural phenomena can we expect to find? quote:You're not getting it so I'll simplify: How can we detect the existence of this world? What phenomena in the observable world should we be looking for that is predicted by this idea you have? Just list any of them. If it can't be tested even in principle, it's not science. quote:Ghosts, leprechauns, UFO's, blah blah blah. That has nothing to do with science or the discussion here. Just answer my question above. quote:Your opinion probably doesn't carry much weight, since you've demonstrated you don't even know what science is. What I've described is the scientific method, and it's the method used by scientists. Maybe you don't like it or wish it included metaphysics, but too bad. Science gets results, period. quote:What in the world are you talking about now? quote:Let's evaluate, shall we? You've posted a metaphysical idea on a science board, claiming it to be bulletproof against science. There is nothing wrong with that in it's own right. But posters here have explained to you why it's bulletproof, and why it has nothing to do with science. But now you are claiming this supernatural idea is scientific. Yet you can't be bothered to spend the slightest amount of time learning what science actually is, and for some reason still feel the need to argue about it. You're arguing about something you know nothing about. So yes, you're making an embarrassment of yourself, whether or not you're capable of seeing it.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1436 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
please explain how it...rules out any other age from last Tuesday to over 13.7 billion years ago.
Because time would have been ... a combination of both sets of laws.
If you cannot do the first then this concept can be used to simulate any desired age of the cosmos without discrimination. This amounts to mental masturbation and is useless for any purpose. (please explain how it...) explains how light gets here from even just 1 million light years away when it can only have traveled 6200 light years (0.62%)
See above answer, where ... the seperated state it could be interesting.
If you cannot do the second then your concept is obviously in error and needs to be discarded as invalidated. (please explain how it...) explains the observed rock solid evidence for an earth at least 567,700
It is with some relish that I wait for the cosmos to be conceeded, so I can have a look at that.
If you cannot do the third then your concept is obviously in error and needs to be discarded as invalidated. Please consider the concept both useless and invalidated until you show otherwise. In actuality, your ommision of the unseen 'wife' of the physical universe, and insistance on 'going it alone' without her, is much more in the category you mentioned! Perhaps if you put your hand to something else besides reaching out for the other half, you might be happy to realize it is very useful, and valid. This is just more fake mystical fantasy of the most infantile kind. Enjoy your little fantasy world. The men with the white coats are your friends ... honest ... we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
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simple  Inactive Member |
quote:If you are looking for nothing, perhaps you'll find it. I'm looking for everything, even the spirit universe, and all thats in it, as well as the physical.
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simple  Inactive Member |
quote:So you have a star only 4 years away? OK. I guess that would put you in the running.
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simple  Inactive Member |
quote:Yes. This is a spacey thread, and if I take it down to earth, I might miss some cosmic potential ammo here, by being bumped to geology or something.
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NosyNed Member Posts: 9004 From: Canada Joined: |
That's why there are other threads. You could drop in to them. Since you are just speculating about stuff here you're wasting your time if the earth is clearly much, much older than 6,000 years. The earth we can walk right up to and mess around with in labs.
I am rather forced to the conclusion that you know very well you can't answer the relatively simple evidence put forward there. Here, you actually think you are fooling someone with all the mumbo-jumbo. (and I would have to confess, since some keep replying to you maybe you are )
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simple  Inactive Member |
quote:Thank you your excellency. You seem hardly able to ask a good question, let alone pass any comprehension test. Funny coincidence, your mystic create all speck is very close to the zero size you brought up.
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NosyNed Member Posts: 9004 From: Canada Joined: |
Why bother? It is time to stop feeding trolls.
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