bulletproof alternate universe

One thing I don't understand is why you are so aggressivly against the big bang theory. Couldn't you adopt an equally "bullet proof" theory of two parrallel specs, one spiritual and one real? Why does the idea that things might have been relatively smaller at one point in time pose such a challenge to your beliefs?

I'm afriad I'm still not with you. What's so paganistic about the big bang? It doesn't deny the spiritual world. You can still have your god, your ghosts, your UFO's, etc. You can even have a young creation if you modified your theory slightly to say that the universe at large is old but the spiritual universe began only 6200 years ago when the the spiritual and real halves split.All that aside I'd like to say that I'm a christian here and I think you're so stuck on genesis here that your missing the big picture about the good book. The bible is also about doing onto others as you would have them do unto you. You don't seem to like people shoving thier theories about the universe down your throte so why are you shoving your theories onto us?

My friend, if one thing should be clear to you by now, it's that your not changing anybodies views. You're not balencing the scales your just making yourself look stupid and insulting open minded people of faith. You really threw the first stone on this one by saying that your theory was absolutely correct and irrefutable from the get go.The other thing on the subject is that your also committing a sin of pride. You're claiming to be able to see into the mind of god essentially. The point of the first part of genesis is that he created it all. How he laid it out, through what mechanism of time -- parrallel universes or seperations or variable speeds of light was not specified in any clear language. It is my conviction that god meant for us to figure these things out with the tools and insturments that he gave us the minds to create.I'm reminded of a quote by the late dr. Richard Feynman: "If you think science can disprove religion then I think you know less about science than I know about religion". You've no need to act in self defense, nobody is out to disprove your god. The same goes for proving religion with science. It's not the perpose of science. Anyone who knows what science is will reject any sutch proof. It's just not possible to prove god in a scientific way because god is a concept not somthing that can be measured. And when I say measurment I don't mean asking how many people who believe or say they have seen somthing or anything like that. Measurment by scientific insturments. Everything else doesn't count in science. If you wan't to think the scientific findings are wrong feel free t, but if you want to say that to scientifically minded people you have to use the tools and methods of science to do so. It's the fact that you aren't thinking scientifically that has got people upset, not your belief system. In short, nobodies out to bite you so there is no need to bite back.