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simply because you said so.before separation: watered down speeded up light
after separation: honeyed up slowed down lightwith the universe only 6200 years old by your (weaker than the Hindu Model) version the light from all stars inside 6200 light-year radius of earth is sending honeyed light, while further away all we get is the watered version.You put the analogy in the hose. This is the reality that comes out of it.

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Still no comment on the Hindo Model ... must be no problems with it that you can find ...enjoy.

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you have defined the light and the speedsare you now introducing a second form of light that is not in the model before? another epicycle -- you're now at 4 and still haven't shown how it can solve the problems inherent in your concept because of your chosen arbitrary date.those problems do not occur for better models, like the Hindu one, which have sufficient age in them to match the observations of the universe down to teh CMB radiation from 13.7 billion light-years away.need to go over them again?refer to begining of the thread. they haven't been answered yet.enjoy.

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you still have the problem of light from stars nearer than 6200 light-years being full source light and light from further further stars being watered ....and there are further problems to get to if you ever solve the first three ... (none yet ... keep trying)enjoy.(ps -- the Hindu Model owns this concept)

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ahahahahaa you are asking me what you meant?enjoy.

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But no, it could not be just the stars because the separation would have been across the board throughout all space. Any light "created" by the separation would be uniformly distributed and result in a flat CMB distribution.enjoy.

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That the CMB distribution is not flat is another problem for you.along with the red-shift ... and othersbut try to handle the first three first eh?enjoy.(ps -- not a problem for the Hindu Model ...)

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the formula isF = G*m*M/d/d where

• F is the force (here of gravitational attraction)
• G is a constant
• m is the mass of the attracted body (boy)
• M is the mass of the attractive body (girl)
• d is the distance between the center of mass of m to the center of mass of M (thus a man in a deep mine is still pulled towards the center of the earth)

On the surface of the earth this defaults to the more familiar f=g*m where g = ~10 m/s/s = G*M/d/d (where d = the average radius of the earth)So yes, the closer the boy and girl get, the stronger the force, and as they collapse on the floor, the closer they can get ...

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s'okay

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not quite what I said -- perceived from inside the black hole the distances would appear unchanged, but view from outside they would be reduced in size -- it is the relativity space warped thing.the gravity force of the star as measured from far enough away before and after the collapse would be the same -- nothing has been added or taken from the equation to change that significantly.this usually takes a super-nova to produce - lesser nova produce "neutron stars" that are super dense but still allow light to escape - and the outer material gets blown off while the inner material gets blown in, compacted. {{if you measure the gravity from inside the blown away shell ... it should be less?}}If the force is great enough it will be compressed inside the "event horizon" for its mass and become a black hole.In theory any amount of mass could be compacted into a black hole, but the forces needed are cosmic in scale so it won't happen even for something the size of our sun.QAD nutshell explanation.

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ahahahahahaaahappy in deed

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light from before already arrived, light slowed in ((now 12 day) "process") affected by that stretching to be very significantly different from 'normal' light and thus will be noticeably different for stars inside the "age horizon" from those outside the "horizon" by a factor of 2 million.

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shouldn't affect our weight. any word on the biblical justification on the 12 days?(the Hindu model rules)

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and the change from one to the other was by a factor of 2 million. I think most people would notice ... maybe not all but most.

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I am stil waiting patiently for an answer to all three of my little concerns that create sever problems for your version of the concept.I also look for a response on the Hindu Model, which does not have the problems I have outlined with your version.enjoy.

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