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jar
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Message 10 of 161 (364769)
11-19-2006 3:43 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by Wepwawet
11-19-2006 3:21 PM


There was a time when victory speeches were all about what a good race was run by your worthy adversary and the importance of rolling up our sleeves and getting to work.
There was a time when there were Worthy Opponents, when the choice was of the better of two great candidates.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 14 of 161 (364804)
11-19-2006 9:02 PM
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11-19-2006 3:21 PM


Higher taxes will be due to BUSH
At some point the dems will realize that they will now be held responsible and get to catch all the blame for the next two years.
And at some point the Republicans will be held responsible for the higher taxes caused by the BUSH debt, misuse of resources and spending spree.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 25 of 161 (365005)
11-20-2006 7:21 PM
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11-20-2006 7:04 PM


Re: Higher taxes will be due to BUSH
What sort of responsibility falls on the republicans alone?
ALL of the responsibility for the huge debt run up for the Iraq fiasco, after all it was Bush & Company that presented the lies and data that Congress used to make decisions. It is the BUSH Debt. 100% Bush Debt.

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jar
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Message 29 of 161 (365020)
11-20-2006 8:05 PM
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11-20-2006 7:43 PM


Re: Higher taxes will be due to BUSH
It is our debt and bitching about who ordered the lobster ain't gonna change it.
There is no doubt that all of us will have to pay for it but it was Bush that spent OUR money.
The same lies and data that the democratic administration believed before Bush you mean?
No, that is NOT what I mean. The lies only started after BUSH came to power, the lies used to justify invading Iraq.
The Iraq War so far has cost us over $340,000,000,000.00, (that is Brazillions for those that only understand BushMatheMatics), or about $3000.00 for each and every household in America. And the meter is still running.
We need to remind folk of this, not because of the financial burden that it places or to explain why the Democrats (or any honest Republican if we could ever find one again) but because the lies were obvious and the plan obviously flawed. The errors were glaring and only willful ignorance allowed the lies to believed.
We need to remind people of this so that in the future, I hope Americans will actually think abut what they are being told and NEVER allow what happened under the Bush Administration to go unchallenged.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 39 of 161 (365226)
11-21-2006 6:58 PM
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11-21-2006 6:46 PM


Re: Higher taxes will be due to BUSH
With the approval of the House of Representatives and the Advice and Consent of the Senate and all that other blather. Our Government spending is out of control...dubya didn't do it all by his own self.
Sorry but those decisions were made based on the Vetted and filtered information and outright lies provided by the Bush Administration.
Let's see now...they only became lies after Bush came to power and started repeating what the previous administration had said (not to mention no less than a dozen friendly countries)...is that what you're saying?
No, I am not saying that at all. No one other than the Bush Administration suggested that there was any reason to invade Iraq. Period. It was only the Bush Administration that called for invasion when all others called for other measures. To push that through the Bush Administration made up evidence, misrepresented evidence, filtered evidence and withheld debate on the options.
Feel free to call BS. That is fine and I have no problems with it but the Iraq Invasion was quite frankly stupid. It was a stupid move before it happened, it is a stupid move after it happened, the fact that many people actually believed the nonsense spouted by the Bush Executive Branch of the government is not as much on those gullible people that bought into it as on those who manipulated the data to further their own ends.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 42 of 161 (365238)
11-21-2006 7:27 PM
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11-21-2006 7:19 PM


Re: Higher taxes will be due to BUSH
The Clinton administration took steps to prepare the country for war with Iraq in 1997 citing concerns about WMD to pressure Iraq into allowing inspectors to return. Either you believe Clinton was bluffing (for which I'd like to see some evidence) or you'll agree that your statement above is factually incorrect.
Too funny. I do remember it worked. And the inspectors were in Iraq and operating just fine until Bush said the invasion was going to happen regardless.

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