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PaulK
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Message 171 of 192 (490913)
12-09-2008 5:48 PM
Reply to: Message 170 by Artemis Entreri
12-09-2008 5:32 PM


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reguarding the 14th amendment.
I just dont see how a state government created by the federal government in order to force the state government to do what the federal government wanted them to do would ever be considered a valid government. it was all set up. It was one of the most tyrannical acts of the federal government in our short history. I cannot accept the 14th, reguardless if the federal court agrees with it or not.
You're seriously calling the Federal Government a tyranny because it won't let the State governments be tyrannies ?
Why exactly do you consider the freedom of the State governments so much more important than the freedom of individual citizens ?

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PaulK
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Message 175 of 192 (490918)
12-09-2008 6:05 PM
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12-09-2008 6:01 PM


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I don't nor did I state that.
what confused you so much?
The fact that you object to the Federal government preventing the State governments from becoming tyrannies implies that you think that the State's right to be a tyranny is more important than the people's right to live free from tyranny.
There's no confusion on my part.

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PaulK
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Message 179 of 192 (490922)
12-09-2008 6:35 PM
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12-09-2008 6:25 PM


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and when the federal government is a tyranny, over the state government to prevent a tyranny in one place with a larger tyranny in every place, then everyone in everystate is not free from tyranny. we can play the circular reasoning game all day long, but I still wonder what your point is?
I'm not playing circular reasoning. I simply find it bizarre to suggest that the Federal government is being tyrannical in taking a stand against tyranny at the level of the State governments.

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