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teen4christ Member (Idle past 5827 days) Posts: 238 Joined: |
I'm taking a break from studying for finals. Thought I'd watch some youtube videos of Bill. Never really been a big fan. Here is one particular clip I want to focus on.
The clip is about Bill's problem with the two teen girls who were voted in their high school as the cutest couple. Bill gives the following reasons for his objection to these two girls showing their love in a public setting. (1) Social: it's much more difficult to be a homosexual than a heterosexual in America. (2) Religious: there's a lot of people that believe that kind of lifestyle is against their religion. (3) An exposition of sexuality in a minor situation. To me, isn't it obvious that these same reasons could be used against interracial couples just a few decades ago? (1) Social: it's much more difficult to be an interracial couple than an innerracial couple in America. (2) Religious: there's a lot of people that believe that kind of lifestyle is against their religion. (3) An exposition of sexuality in a minor situation. Number 1 I just changed a few words but number 2 and 3 I just copied and pasted. How is Bill O'Reilly, and Fox, getting away with all of this obvious bigotry, especially bigotry that is almost identical to the one we saw just a few decades ago? Why aren't other networks calling them out on this?
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ramoss Member (Idle past 640 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: |
The way Bill OReilly gets away with it is "FOX NEWS' (or is it faux news?
I have some choice words about Bill, but they are not appropriate for a civil forum.
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Taz Member (Idle past 3319 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: |
He's getting away with it partly because of people like me. I'm afraid that if I watch his show again I will have a break down.
I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't put my head that far up my ass.
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
I did a quicky "Bill O'Reilly" " Terry Gross" Google - Here are the results.
I chose the article How To Beat Bill O'Reilly - Kill him with kindness to give a quick skim. From this source:
quote: Poor baby. A link there led back to the O'Reilly interview (audio available) with Terry Gross on NRR's "Fresh Air". I need to get back to this more, but I thought I'd throw out some stuff for consideration. Moose
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Taz Member (Idle past 3319 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: |
You know if they aired the interview with Terry Gross on the O'Reilly Factor at all? I was only able to find a fox edited transcript but nothing on whether it was aired or not.
I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't put my head that far up my ass.
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FliesOnly Member (Idle past 4173 days) Posts: 797 From: Michigan Joined: |
Bill O'Reilly may every well be the biggest asshole on TV. After watching that clip (I will not watch his show...I refuse to support him or Fox Noise in any way), I was sitting at my desk and tensed up and ready to punch a hole in my monitor. It's simple stunning (and oh so sad) that he has any followers. So sad.
He's basically a loud mouth, uninformed, unintelligent, bullying homophobic asshole that has a forum from which to spew in nonsensical ramblings.
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teen4christ Member (Idle past 5827 days) Posts: 238 Joined: |
FliesOnly writes
quote:But he's got a lot of fans. His show is one of the most watched tv personalities right now. So, obvious a lot of people agree with his view.
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Larni Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: |
I pretty much echo the views already presented: the guy's a prick.
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Stile Member Posts: 4295 From: Ontario, Canada Joined: |
teen4christ writes: His show is one of the most watched tv personalities right now. So, obvious a lot of people agree with his view. Not necessarily. When Howard Stern was regularly on the air (or, at least, when I used to listen to him...) his show was one of the most popular in the country. Half the people agreed with what he had to say... and listened to hear what he would say next. The other half hated everything he stood for... and listened to hear what he would say next. Now, I have no statistics on the following of this strange fellow so I can't really say one way or the other. But just because his show gets a lot of viewers doesn't mean that the majority of those viewers agree with him.
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obvious Child Member (Idle past 4144 days) Posts: 661 Joined: |
Which provides evidence that a large amount of Americans are idiots and don't want to discuss issues in a mature manner which requires a brain and an education.
Scientists have had a hard time getting their message across to the public because they talk about complex issues in complex forms. The exact opposite of what pundits do. Guess who wins out in the idea war? The Pundits.
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IamJoseph Member (Idle past 3696 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: |
Missing factor:
Foxnews, specially O'Rielly, is the world's most successful News medium - in record time. 99.9% of all he says, happens to be well founded and honest, as opposed trendy correct, and its antithesis based on a wish list of destruction and chaos if it was accepted and incurred.
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ramoss Member (Idle past 640 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: |
Hey, Iamjoseph, I have a nice bridge to sell you in Brooklyn. Cheap
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anglagard Member (Idle past 865 days) Posts: 2339 From: Socorro, New Mexico USA Joined: |
IAJ writes: Missing factor: Foxnews, specially O'Rielly, is the world's most successful News medium - in record time. 99.9% of all he says, happens to be well founded and honest, as opposed trendy correct, and its antithesis based on a wish list of destruction and chaos if it was accepted and incurred. Here is their virtual sole source, the military and propaganda arms of the current administration: Media's refusal to address the NYT's "military analyst" story continues | Salon.com Some people believe that power automatically confers truth, be it from Stalin, Bush, Charlie Manson, Jim Jones, or Pol Pot depending upon whichever one is geographically closest. The term commonly used to describe such people is authoritarian, which is the antithesis of democracy. O'Reilly is not only an authoritarian shill for the current administration, he is also often too stupid to even get the program right. For just one telling example, O'Reilly twice blamed the Malmady massacre of unarmed troops during the Battle of the Bulge upon the American GIs of the greatest generation rather than upon the Nazi SS. He continued to proclaim this baldface lie as fact for days until the pressure became overwhelming. As a veteran of the US Army, I consider this insult beyond the pale. I doubt that in this one case he cleared the story with the pentagon masters before broadcast. To me this showed exactly where his true allegiance lies, and it is not to the United States or Western civilization. IMHO O'Reilly is a liar and a traitor. Edited by anglagard, : clarity Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis Bacon The more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza
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IamJoseph Member (Idle past 3696 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: |
Your example's veracity and context is unknown to me, but on the surface it appears Bill is wrong here. But this does not allign with anything else in your post.
One who has power merits some authority - this is unavoidable. It must be compared with other entities with power, and if they are equivalent. Here, the example of Stalin fails. O'riely is not a traitor when it is compared with those who's resume against terrorism is blank - or worse. Foxnews succeeded because it clearly made a mockery of CNN, and more power to Bill.
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IamJoseph Member (Idle past 3696 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: |
I have a better one. How about the one which says 9/11 was an american and/or zionist plot? Here, Bill, not CNN, took up the issue. All Dems played the silent game. How cheap is that?
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