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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3958 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2290 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 7.6 |
Because it's a known fact that in Islamic schools that's part of the cirricula as well as the five prayers daily
Reading comprehension Buz, Obama went to a predominantly Muslim school not an Islamic school. Do you have a copy of the curriculum from Obama's school?
This implies that catechism...
Catechism is Catholic Buz, he's talking about the catholic school he attended.
..prayers were part of the cirricula.
The call to prayer happens 5 times a day Buz. He cleary says "the meaning of the muezzin's call to evening prayer" evening, not during school hours. So you have no evidence that prayer was part of the curriculum.
This does not mean that Obama was not indoctrinated
And it doesn't mean that he was indoctrinated. To claim that he was indoctrinated is innuendo.
considered a practicing Muslim as was the case with all of the students
Predominantly Muslim Buz, not completely. No evidence that eh was considered a practicing Muslim. No evidence that he professed to follow Islam. soon I discovered that this rock thing was true Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world And so there was only one thing I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2290 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 7.6 |
I have a copy of the Quran and have read significant parts of it
I've asked this before and you've never answered; when did you learn to read Arabic? soon I discovered that this rock thing was true Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world And so there was only one thing I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
DJ writes: I've asked this before and you've never answered; when did you learn to read Arabic? The translators of my Quran know Arabic. I go by that. Your job is: 1. To refute that these translators have erred in their translation of the verses I've cited by citing the specific errors. 2. To show howin any allged errors refute the points I am making. Though I got the links off the internet (link will likely show publishing details), I have in my home, two copies of the Koran for reading and research, one which is the translations of Edward W. Lane, Stanley Lane-Pool & A.H.G. Sarwar, pub Avenel Books. The other is by Arthur J Arberry, Micmillan Pub. BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
You mined out the one verse that helps you out of context, added quote mined verses from the Quran and avoided the rest of my context which solidifies my point. Not quite Buz. I took your verse and placed it in the context of the verses that surround it. That is placing things in context. Is it possible you do not even know what being in context means? You still do not understand the issue it seems. The issue is that regardless of what the Qur'an says, it has NOTHING to do with Obama. Let me try to explain innuendo and smear to you in another way. If I said that "Buz has a copy of the Qur'an, reads it and looks things up in it, therefor he is secretly a Muslim hiding in Christianity as an agent provocateur to destroy Christianity from within and in the Hand of Satan", that is innuendo and smear. You do that constantly. The article says a predominately Muslim School and you twist that into a Muslim School. The article says his mother was not worried about the Calls to Prayer and you twist that into he had homework on the calls to prayer. He has a Muslim father and stepfather and you twist that into he is Muslim. He has a first and middle name that sound Muslim and you twist that into he is a Muslim. He says he is Christian and you twist that into he is a professed Christian. The really pitiful thing is that even if all of your innuendos and smears were true, they still have NOTHING to do with whether or not Obama is fit to be President. You twist everything to fit your fantasy. You do that time after time and then claim that the innuendos and smears are support. You have NOTHING Buz and everyone reading the thread knows it. Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3958 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
a predominantly Muslim school =/= muslim school.
if i go to a school in an inner city and it's predominantly black, was it built specifically for black students and does it teach special black knowledge and only serve special black food and require prayers to the black god? no, of course not. indonesia is a predominantly muslim country. any school that does not discriminate will be predominantly muslim. get used to it.
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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3958 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
predominantly is a word used to describe demographics. he still hasn't proven that this "predominantly muslim school" was anything more than populated mostly by muslims.
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bluescat48 Member (Idle past 4220 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: |
brennakimi
predominantly is a word used to describe demographics. he still hasn't proven that this "predominantly muslim school" was anything more than populated mostly by muslims. And this is definitely logical in a predominantly muslim country. There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
i think i'm competent to say what i implied. it wasn't that he was racist, it's that he has terrible policy plans. Whatever... I guess there is nothing left to say. Don't vote for him.
read the book i linked you to, or even read the reviews of it. use your fucking google. i did loads of homework for you, now you do some. Homework on what exactly? Trying to prove that the black man is hopelessly destitute? I guess I'm just not a cynical defeatist.
i think by "hollywood" you mean white people. By Hollywood, I mean white liberals.
you mean invent strawmen and argue with yourself. No, I mean read between the lines.
quote: they're just lazy, culturally. i see. also, why don't you demonstrate your claim. Go to any ghetto anywhere in America and then tell me what you see.
so the only reason there are fewer black female executives than white female executives is because they're culturally incompetent and culturally predestined to be baby-squirting welfare queens? It all depends on the situation. African Americans comprise approximately 12% of the total population of the United States. That's not very large considering that hispanics have now surpassed them in number in a span of fifty years or so.
if you'd read that book i linked, you'd know that it contains actual demonstrable proof of industry standards to keep blacks out of white neighborhoods to reduce the perception of the decline of the neighborhoods regardless of the income of the black people in question. I'm not going to go run out to Borders or Barnes and Nobles right now, but I will have the book in the back of my mind the next time I happen to be there. Racism still exists, unquestionably. But that doesn't have to be a convenient scapegoat. In the mind of a liberal, racism only goes in one direction, which directly correlates to the overall perception of communist ideologies. Anyone in a minority status can do no wrong, where people in a majority status are out to destroy the minority. The reality is that none of it is so clear cut. There are many factors and extenuating circumstances at work.
seriously. do some work. unbelievable. no wonder you have no idea. Brenna, I know what's going on. The question is, do you? Or are you just listening to the little birdy in your ear who decries injustice about everything? Until there is a complete inversion of the norms, NOT equality, the liberal will not be happy.
quote: wow. you really do just make up your arguments. do you think maybe i'm really advocating what i fucking say i'm advocating? you really feel the need to make up an enemy to argue with? so now i'm a pinko commie bastard. hell. i thought i was joking. thank you so much for helping me find my place in the world. You may not even be aware of the origins of your beliefs. I happen to know where it stems from and how it now has infiltrated the mainstream in to the commercials we watch to every day modes of speech. Umwertung aller Werte.
and i swear to god, if buz suspends me because i used the word "fucking", i'm throwing a piss fit. it's simple cursing, not "meanspirited" or insulting. i don't need to insult nem. he's already demonstrated a complete unwillingness to learn anything on his own or actually debate my arguments instead of his own. Brenna, when do you ever actually address what I've said? If I ask you a question, you take it to mean that you needn't answer it except with a question of your own. “First dentistry was painless, then bicycles were chainless, and carriages were horseless, and many laws enforceless. Next cookery was fireless, telegraphy was wireless, cigars were nicotineless, and coffee caffeineless. Soon oranges were seedless, the putting green was weedless, the college boy was hatless, the proper diet -- fatless. New motor roads are dustless, the latest steel is rustless, our tennis courts are sodless, our new religion -- Godless” -Arthur Guiterman
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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3958 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
Racism still exists, unquestionably. But that doesn't have to be a convenient scapegoat. In the mind of a liberal, racism only goes in one direction, which directly correlates to the overall perception of communist ideologies. Anyone in a minority status can do no wrong, where people in a majority status are out to destroy the minority. inventing more arguments for yourself.
You may not even be aware of the origins of your beliefs. I happen to know where it stems from and how it now has infiltrated the mainstream in to the commercials we watch to every day modes of speech. Umwertung aller Werte. making up more arguments. do share your imaginings.
Brenna, when do you ever actually address what I've said? If I ask you a question, you take it to mean that you needn't answer it except with a question of your own. i actually addressed a lot of stuff that you asked. of course, you actually never read anything i said.
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2290 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 7.6 |
The translators of my Quran know Arabic. I go by that.
So you've never read the Holy Qur'an you've only read translations. soon I discovered that this rock thing was true Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world And so there was only one thing I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
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obvious Child Member (Idle past 4146 days) Posts: 661 Joined: |
Tell if this is correct
Buz's argument is that since Obama went to a Muslim school, he's a Muslim?
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2290 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 7.6 |
Buz's argument is that since Obama went to a Muslim school, he's a Muslim?
There's a little more than that:1. He had a Muslim (for a time) father 2. He has Muslim first and middle names And of course the most ludicrous one 3. The world population of Muslims is not calling for his death because of his alleged conversion to christianity therefore he is still secretly a Muslim. soon I discovered that this rock thing was true Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world And so there was only one thing I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
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obvious Child Member (Idle past 4146 days) Posts: 661 Joined: |
quote: Okay....asinine yes....
quote: Well this begs the question, Did Obama ever utter that key phrase? If it can be proven he never did, then Buz is completely without an argument.
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2290 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 7.6 |
Did Obama ever utter that key phrase?
No evidence that he did, just Buz's innuendo.
If it can be proven he never did, then Buz is completely without an argument
It has never been proven that he did utter it. Buz has no arguement, just smear and innuendo. Edited by DrJones*, : No reason given. soon I discovered that this rock thing was true Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world And so there was only one thing I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
Nonsense. Join the real literary world and then we talk.
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