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Author Topic:   Having it both ways (Chinese abortion policy & Pro-choice/life considerations)
kongstad
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Message 44 of 59 (399085)
05-03-2007 5:52 PM
Reply to: Message 43 by Hyroglyphx
05-03-2007 11:44 AM


nemesis_juggernaut writes:
Brenna, there is no doubt you are right when it comes to women's rights in China. But we aren't talking about women? We are just talking about inhuman blobs that just so happen to have two X chromosome's.
You are so close NJ. You are just wrong on one account. We ARE talking about women. I know that pro-lifers despise women, but just stop for a second and think.
Who aborts the fetuses. Is it women or men?
I know it might be a hard question, so I won't let you wait to long for the answer. In all cases it is women having the abortion.
The problem is that since it is the women that are pregnant, they should be the ones making the decision. But the data suggests that they are under some kind pressure to abort female fetuses.
If they are pressured into a decision they would not otherwise make, it is BAD. Because we think that human beings should be able to CHOOSE how they want to live their lives, and what happens to their body.
So the bad thing is that women are forced to abort, not that they abort. Its not about the fetuses its about the women.

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kongstad
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From: Copenhagen, Denmark
Joined: 02-24-2004


Message 47 of 59 (399211)
05-04-2007 1:13 PM
Reply to: Message 45 by Nuggin
05-03-2007 11:17 PM


Some of these pressures are stronger than others. The pressures in China may be stronger than the examples I gave, but if they are societal pressures they are no more valid or invalid than the ones we experience.
If women here are having abortions because they don't want to have kids at a young age, or because they aren't married, etc. that is no better than abortions in China over the babies sex.
You are right. that is why its called pro-choice. People should have the opportunity to choose for themselves. That is why contraception should cheap and easy to get. pre-natal care should be cheap or rather free (like it is here in Denmark).
Abortions should be cheap(or free) and easy to get, and giving birth should be cheap or free. Follow up care, pediatricians etc should be free.
Women and men alike should be offered compensation for lost wages when the child is an infant, and daycare should be cheap.
The focus should be on reducing the number of unwanted pregnancies, not on reducing abortions.
And if society has standards that say that women are worth less than men, then we should work on getting that changed for the good of all. As a side effect less women would find that a pregnancy with a female fetus would be an unwanted pregnancy.
Go to the root of the problems.

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