Having it both ways (Chinese abortion policy & Pro-choice/life considerations)

Because they're not making a choice; they're having a choice forced on them by government policies and social necessity.Pro-choice isn't just a slogan, slappy, like the way "pro-life" is. It's an actual description of the fact that we'd prefer women had the free choice about who was able to gestate inside their bodies. Because it's indicative of the fact that being female is a liability in Chinese society.And you'll notice that none of the pro-choice feminists who are concerned about this issue say that the solution is to prevent anybody in China from having an abortion. (Go on, I dare you to find someone who's said that.) The proposed solutions eliminate the liability of being female and so eliminate the reasons one would practice sex-selective abortion in the first place.

It makes no sense to you because, again, the woman whom the fetus is inside is completely invisible to you. From your fetus-centric view it doesn't make any sense at all.From the perspective of the woman and her choices? It makes perfect sense. One is a woman exercising a (relatively) free choice about who is allowed to gestate within her body; the other is coercion making that choice for her.Learn to see women, NJ, and not just fetuses, and it'll become clear to you.

Who's floundering? I demolished your entire argument back on the first page, on post 8 - and received absolutely no reply. The question is - why are you floundering?Is it because you still can't see the problem from the perspective of a woman and her ability to make choices about who gets to live inside her uterus? That doesn't make any sense. The pro-choice side isn't interested in making women have abortions - they're interested in women being able to choose abortions if that's what's best for them, or not choose abortions, if they don't want to have one. How can that be "pro-abortion"? (It really is impossible for you to imagine women making choices for themselves, isn't it?)Let's try another formulation. Your side is "pro-forced birth", since your side believes that the state can force women with unwanted pregnancies to give birth to them anyway. Our side is "anti-forced birth." Much clearer, no?

Not to mention - a whole lot of exceptionalist thinking. Like, "all these other women are tramps and sluts, but my abortion is totally fine, because I have very good reasons and I thought about it a long time."But you're right, the fact that women are occasionally complicit or even supportive of patriarchy doesn't mean that there's no such thing as patriarchy at all. In fact it's not at all uncommon for disinfranchinsed people to be openly supportive of the systems that disinfranchise them. Like, you know, non-rich Republican voters.