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Phat
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Message 267 of 283 (842194)
10-27-2018 4:22 PM
Reply to: Message 265 by Faith
10-27-2018 3:32 PM


Re: New Footprints ... in the sand ...
Upon googling that image that you presented, I found this.

Both sides have valid arguments in this one.

One of the most common (and one of the worst) arguments made by creationists -when it comes to Geology- is:

The geologic column doesn’t exist anywhere in the world!!

I run into this statement ad nauseam in their “educational” videos and literature. They state that the text books are lying to us and that it is a another fabrication made up by scientists to mislead and indoctrinate or children to convince us of the lie of evolution. But what argument are they actually making when they say this? Are they implying that the earth doesn’t not contain multiple stratigraphical layers? Of course not. This awful argument is formed on the foundation that most creationist arguments are: confusion and a straw man understanding of geology.

The first problem they run into is confusing the geologic time scale with a geologic column,and in some cases doing so on purpose to confuse the issue.

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Phat
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Message 271 of 283 (842202)
10-27-2018 5:03 PM
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10-27-2018 4:28 PM


Re: New Footprints ... in the sand ...
Honestly? None of them. I don't believe that God would be so obtuse in His interaction with humanity. I believe that we will be judged by our response to what we have to work with. Stubborn beliefs without evidence are a dangerous form of thinking.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo

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Phat
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Message 277 of 283 (842224)
10-28-2018 3:42 AM
Reply to: Message 272 by PaulK
10-27-2018 5:05 PM


Re: New Footprints ... in the sand ...
Upon further musings, I can only say that the Creationist side has but one argument: That God did it for a mysterious reason. I can't say that this is a valid argument, however.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo

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