No Abiogenesis, no Evolution, then what?

I think that is a preposterous concept. Everything had a begining. If there is a god, he had to have to come from somewhere.To be honest, when we think back far enough we must question as to how anything came to exist. This is indeed a paradox, but it does not mean life always existed.So, why do you think that?

1. We are made in god's image. We look like him, he looks like us. The words clear, the words are simple, the words leave no doubt. God has eyes, nose, mouth, penis, anus, etc, etc. He breathes air, speaks in air, hears in air, etc. So where is god? He has the same body as us. Why does he have all these attributes that we need but a god would not?2. "... in OUR image..." There was more than one god. Again, plain, simple, undeniaible, inarguable. He said it. He meant it. So where are these other gods? What have they done? What happened to them? Did your god kill these other gods?

Good point Creavolution.Further, there is common agreement among scientists of the earth ( I cannot come up with the classification of those people right now) that the earth had a long phase of being molten and far too hot to have any life of any sort. Life could not have existed on the earth in perpetuity.(added a moment later)
BTW: The earth did not exist for the first several billions of years of the universe.This message has been edited by bkelly, 10-07-2005 08:04 PM

I need a clarification here. What do you mean by life existing in the vacuum of space?If you mean a pure vacuum, then from what can the life exist. There is nothing in a vacuum so nothing can exist, much less life.Do you mean on a small mote of dust wandering about in the vacuum of space? Or maybe one gram of rock. One Kilo gram. You get the picture?

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Truth fears no question.bkelly

Faith,I respectfully request a reply to Message 44 of this thread.BTW: How do I put in a link to another message?Edited to use the link method that jar showed me.This message has been edited by bkelly, 10-08-2005 09:03 PM

I find it interesting that you do not apply this statement to those about god having no beginning and life existing in eternity. All statements about god and his deeds are assertions without proof.

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Truth fears no question.bkelly

referencing msg Message 78I was expecting more complicated.
Thank you.

I believe (carefully making this a statement of opinion rather than fact) that you ignored the message, not because it was disrespectful, but because you do not have a valid answer. The gross caricature is not from me, it is from the bible.Jar's message 81 is quite debatable, but for now, given that request, if there is no response to this post I will back out of this thread.My signature is my parting note.

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Truth fears no question.bkelly

As I saw the post I am responding to after I made my last post, this is a more friendly response, I hope you will allow an exception to that last post. I do have a real problem with that. The concept that everything had to have a beginning is self contained paradox. Where did everything come from in the very beginning. That is a problem that I really cannot see a way to even begin to approach, much less begin to wrap my brain around.

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Truth fears no question.bkelly