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doctrbill
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Message 55 of 196 (6490)
03-10-2002 8:31 PM
Reply to: Message 54 by John Paul
03-10-2002 4:31 PM


quote:
Originally posted by John Paul:
The book I mentioned is fully referenced. Before you scoff at it perhaps it would be a good idea to read it.
Waste managemnet, manpower studies, floor space allotments, feeding challenges, basic living conditions, the recovery of the earth's biosphere etc., are all covered.
If you are not going to read the book that's OK. Just don't go around saying that these issues haven't been addressed.
That would be a lie.

You miss the point of debate.
It is up to you to argue in favor of your opinions.
All you need do is share with us, in your own words, the arguments you believe are salient. Otherwise, all anyone would have to do in here is say, "Read these books."

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doctrbill
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Message 68 of 196 (6573)
03-11-2002 11:28 AM
Reply to: Message 58 by Punisher
03-11-2002 7:36 AM


quote:
Originally posted by Punisher:
It is doubtful whether the humans had to clean the cages every morning. Possibly they had sloped floors or slatted cages, where the manure could fall away from the animals and be flushed away (plenty of water around) or destroyed by vermicomposting which would also provide earthworms as a food source. Very deep bedding can sometimes last for a year without needing a change. Absorbent material (e.g. sawdust, softwood wood shavings and especially peat moss) would reduce the moisture content and hence the odor.
From Creation Ex Nihilo 19(2):16-19,
March-May 1997

Consider the stores of food and water estimated by the book in question,
quote:
Originally posted by John Paul, message #29:
The food was started at 2,500 tons and the water at 4,070 tons. On page 19 of the book Noah's Ark: A Feasibility Study it breaks it down.
settled barn-dried hay- 21,800 cubic meters
lightly-compressed hay pellet- 7,060 cubic meters
doubly-compressed hay- 5,410 cubic meters
pellted horse food and pellted cattle food- 3,030 cubic meters
dried fruits- 2,930 cubic meters.
fresh meat- 6,633 cubic meters
dried meat(not compressed)- 3,980 cubic meters
dried meat (compressed)- 1,923 cubic meters
dried fish- 12,800 cubic meters

4000 tons of water is about 1,000,000 gallons. Do you construct a tank in the upper levels in order to use gravity flow for watering? Or do you keep it as a lake in the bottom of the boat and risk contamination with nearly a million gallons of urine running down those "sloped floors"?
The tally for foodstuffs runs 65,000 cubic meters. Most of this will end up as feces. If you wash it down with salt water, how do you get the water into the boat and direct it to where it will be used. How do you drain it? Is there a drain plug in the bottom of the boat?
As for the number of people in the ark, the Apostle says there were eight (8).
1 Peter 3:20
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