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Author Topic:   Playing God with Neanderthals
Jon
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Message 93 of 144 (602221)
01-26-2011 8:12 PM
Reply to: Message 92 by Peter
01-26-2011 6:52 PM


Re: Neaderthal Hotties
I don't think you would necessarily find out much about Neaderthal behaviour though, since the newly sprung Neaderthal would have no-one to learn Neanderthalness from.
Indeed, I cannot understand why anyone would believe a Neanderthal to be maladaptive by default. What should make us assume a Neanderthal, unlike a modern human, receives all of their mental faculties and abilities at birth? Is it not just as feasible that most of their behavior and mental capabilities are unconsciously learned as they experience the world around them?
I think any Neanderthal born today and raised as a human being may very likely be perfectly indistinguishable from the other humans around themfalling both mentally and physically within the acceptable range of variation of the modern form, perhaps only with exception of their immunity or susceptibility to various diseases.
Jon
Edited by Jon, : ABE: 'perhaps only with exception of their immunity or susceptibility to various diseases'

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Jon
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Message 97 of 144 (602315)
01-27-2011 12:50 PM
Reply to: Message 95 by Blue Jay
01-27-2011 10:29 AM


Re: Maladaptive Neanderthals
I always thought the "maladaptive" opinions were more focused on immunity concerns and social stigmatization than on the mental capacity of Neanderthals.
I don't know why a Neanderthal raised as a human being would be socially stigmatized.
Jon

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Jon
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Message 99 of 144 (602326)
01-27-2011 2:11 PM
Reply to: Message 98 by Blue Jay
01-27-2011 1:17 PM


Re: Maladaptive Neanderthals
I can think of plenty of reasons:
  1. Lots of people will be curious about how intelligent he/she is.
  2. Lots of people will be curious about how well he/she speaks.
  3. Lots of Paparazzi will want photos.
  4. There will inevitably be detractors of "playing God" that will surely cause problems.
Indeed! My point was moreso directed at a situation in which the identity of the Neanderthal person is not published. The publicity of the whole thing, however, could certainly create developmental and adaptive problems for anyone, Neanderthal or notjust look at all those former 'child stars'.
Anyway, if we decide to treat the poor boy like a monkey in a zoo, then we aren't really attempting to raise him as a human being, and I'd say my point wouldn't be overly relevant anymore. In that case, though, I'd say treating a human being like a science experiment would be much more immoral than simply causing the critter to exist in the first place. Creating a human who you believe may be maladaptive or developmentally slow by default is hardly as cruel as creating a human for the simple sake of torturing him endlessly with mind-numbing science experiments.
Jon

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