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Granny Magda
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Message 71 of 122 (569072)
07-20-2010 6:23 AM
Reply to: Message 68 by riVeRraT
07-19-2010 7:35 PM


Mother Teresa; Sacred Cow
Hi Rat,
God speaks to us in our hearts through the Holy Spirit. REAL Christians, like mother Theresa, act on that.
Okay, this has nothing in particular to do with the topic, but...
Mother Teresa was a bitch. Honestly.
Was it her Christianity that inspired Mother Teresa to accept money from lavishly corrupt Haitian dictator Baby Doc Duvalier? Money that he had swindled from the Haitian people? Was it her Christianity that inspired her to praise this monster?
Was it her Christianity that inspired her to eulogise poverty?
Mother Teresa writes:
I think it is very beautiful for the poor to accept their lot, to share it with the passion of Christ. I think the world is being much helped by the suffering of the poor people.
I would certainly agree that her world-denying religious persuasions influenced the way she ran her "hospices". Those places have been heavily criticised by medical professionals as being inadequately run, promoting suffering and, perhaps most shockingly for an alleged healthcare organisation, failing to distinguish between curable and terminal diseases, thus allowing patients to die where they could have been saved. I can see quite clearly how her denial-of-the-flesh and celebration of poverty would inform such horrors. But I wouldn't want to shout about it if I were you.
I recommend this article on the subject;
The fanatic, fraudulent Mother Teresa.
Mutate and Survive

"A curious aspect of the theory of evolution is that everybody thinks he understands it." - Jacques Monod

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Granny Magda
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Message 84 of 122 (572891)
08-08-2010 11:41 AM
Reply to: Message 77 by riVeRraT
08-07-2010 12:25 AM


Re: Mother Teresa; Sacred Cow
Hi Rat,
I was under the impression she was a good person. I have not ever heard anything bad about her, and her accomplishments were thought to be great.
I guess that's because Christians tend to mention her as some sort of paragon. The faithful blind themselves to MT's poor track record or neglect to mention it because it doesn't tell the story they want to hear. There is a parallel here to the way MT herself was seemingly blind to the ill-effects that her efforts really had upon the poor.
I don't know how true those accusations are, and I don't have time, or the resources to accurately assess that, but suffice to say, it takes 7 truths to get rid of one lie.
Nor did you have the time to determine whether your praise of the woman was accurate.
And if Mother Theresa spent her whole life doing the best she could trying to help people, then this bad mouthing is a tragedy.
And it would be a tragedy if someone who accepted money from a corrupt dictator were to be held up as a moral paragon. It would be a tragedy if she were to be touted as helping the poor when in fact she may have been responsible for many deaths (non-terminal illness treated as terminal and the patients left to die avoidable deaths, a charge frequently levelled at her hospices). It would be a tragedy if Christians allowed their religious affiliation to blind them to the harm this woman did and her incredible hypocrisy.
I don't want to make a big deal of this, but I do think that Christians should be more careful about citing MT as an example of the good religion can motivate. She demonstrates the opposite. There was a streak of old-school Catholic mortification of the flesh and celebration of poverty in MT's modus operandi. Her own religion led her to harm those in her care and yet theists often bring her up as an example of how wonderful Christianity is. It is not appropriate.
I hope that you will think twice about using MT as an example of a good Christian in future.
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