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johnfolton  Suspended Member (Idle past 5621 days) Posts: 2024 Joined: |
Not sure if this is what your looking for, but the different kinds of creatures have perfect design, all the different kinds of creatures came onto the fossil record fully formed (evidence of design), and have since evolved because God made all his creatures male and female, to be a sharing of genes, and by natural selection(survival of the fittest), which they call micro-evolution, no evidence of any new genes or chromosomes coming onto the scene, only copies, mutated copies, but only copies, no evidence to suggest life is able to design all the different evidences of design, no evidence that the theory of evolution answers the question of origin, the reason evolutionists are continually looking for missing links is that the theory of evolution has no evidence that the creatures didn't come onto the scene fully formed, so they are forced to pretend the theory of evolution isn't concerned about origin, or design, which of course its this design evident in the creatures themselves that make it time to replace the theory of evolution with the theory of Intelligent design. Just a few examples of design, etc...
http://www.geocities.com/godsmachineshop/index.html Forbidden Design of Insect Wings http://aig.gospelcom.net/...area/Magazines/docs/18db1307.asp [This message has been edited by whatever, 01-22-2004]
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johnfolton  Suspended Member (Idle past 5621 days) Posts: 2024 Joined: |
The reason evolutionists don't like the Intelligent Design theory is the very reason no doctorate in basic or applied science will debate Walt Brown, evolutionists want to debate theology, when the issue is does Science support Intelligent design, or Evolution.
The evidence supports Intelligent Design, so when you write your paper, be sure to include that Intelligent Design refuses to get dragged into a theological debate, its only concerned with the scientific evidences, for design, and that micro-evolution, genetics, all the micro-biology in the creatures is more evidence that life was intelligently designed, etc... You could bring up, to identify any creature, tree, insect, fish, you only need to go to the library to find their scientific name, there is no new kinds of creatures being formed, in fact the fossil record shows from the millions of creatures, fish, insects, reptiles, etc...they reproduce only like kind creatures, which came onto the fossil record fully formed, so the lack of millions of transitional fossils needed to support toe, is a big strike against evolutionists, and supporting they were designed, I suppose hippo fossils could be infered to of been a whale that walked, a pigs tooth could be infered to be a missing link, its these kind of problems with their missing links, which is why evolutionists want to drag religion into the theory of Intelligent Design. You could mention how the dog micro-evolving from the wolf is an example of Intelligent Design, that by inbreeding the wolf micro-evolved into the many different dog species, but this in no way is evidence to support evolution that new genes were created, in fact breeders of cattle will get a new bull, every couple of years, so recessive genes from inbreeding, will not cause their cattle to become sickly, that this is all part of micro-evolution(Intelligent Design Theory), how the different creatures because of inbreeding, causes all the variations of the dogs, cats, cattle, etc... Wish you well on your project, etc... [This message has been edited by whatever, 01-22-2004]
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johnfolton  Suspended Member (Idle past 5621 days) Posts: 2024 Joined: |
PaulK, It is interesting that no doctorate scientists believes the scientific evidences support evolution enough to debate Walt, on his challenge, does the scientific evidence support creationism or evolution, etc...
Its been over 23 years, and all you have is that they want to include religion which would make the debate meaningless(off topic), which is of course what the evolutionists are trying to do to Intelligent Design, to move it off topic, and why the Intelligent Design movement has no interest in debating theology, etc...
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johnfolton  Suspended Member (Idle past 5621 days) Posts: 2024 Joined: |
FliesOnly, If it wasn't due to the exoskeleton of the insects, it would be possible for insects to micro-evolve into large creatures, just one of the many evidences of Intelligent Design, a part of their being limiting their size, etc...
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johnfolton  Suspended Member (Idle past 5621 days) Posts: 2024 Joined: |
PaulK, We all know that Joe wanted to include religion, which he wasn't qualified to debate, etc...
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johnfolton  Suspended Member (Idle past 5621 days) Posts: 2024 Joined: |
Abshalom, The apes were created by the dust of the earth, however, what makes you special is that you were created in the image of God, it should be as plain as the nose on your face, etc...
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johnfolton  Suspended Member (Idle past 5621 days) Posts: 2024 Joined: |
crashfrog, Your image is not the image of a chimp, its all about design, however, to skip to the creationists theory, the bible says your created in the image of God, etc...
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johnfolton  Suspended Member (Idle past 5621 days) Posts: 2024 Joined: |
I agree with NosyNed, since the Intelligent Design theory doesn't bring theology into its theory, you should just dwell on proving the creature lack of design or that life shows evidence of design, etc...
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johnfolton  Suspended Member (Idle past 5621 days) Posts: 2024 Joined: |
bran_sept88, Your welcome, lots of fiery darts on this site, keep the faith, etc...
P.S. I like this article on how the whales ribs collapsed because there "designed", to collapse so they are able to dive to the bottom of the ocean, etc... http://www.ftexploring.com/askdrg/askdrgalapagos2.html
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johnfolton  Suspended Member (Idle past 5621 days) Posts: 2024 Joined: |
truthlover, I thought the Creationists also believes that life should show evidence of adaption via the micro-evolutionary processes in Genesis, sounds too me that Ken Hamm rightfully believes in the inerrancy of the bible, etc...The Creationist Theory righfully goes back to genesis, but the Intelligent design theory just wants to debate the scientific evidences of design, etc...so it wouldn't be apropriate to post my post in respect to the creationist theory, etc... Check out this Mission statement for one Intelligent Design Network, etc... Intelligent Design Network – Seeking Objectivity in Origins Science
Ken Hamm sound like an interesting Creationists, liked listening to his little quips on answers in Genesis, and found it interesting that he too believes that the creatures adaption via natural selection is all a part of Genesis, but well thats the Creationist theory, they have no problem bringing theology into their theory, my little quip was in respect to the Intelligent Design Theory, etc... Christian Radio - Free Online Christian Ministry Radio Broadcasts\ P.S. If you like my quip so much, perhaps you could nominate it for the post of the month, etc... [This message has been edited by whatever, 01-23-2004]
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johnfolton  Suspended Member (Idle past 5621 days) Posts: 2024 Joined: |
FliesOnly, It all more supporting evidence supporting design, etc...
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johnfolton  Suspended Member (Idle past 5621 days) Posts: 2024 Joined: |
::, It is interesting that evolution doesn't answer the problem in that every creature exibits design, in that the fossil record show the fossils came onto the scene fully formed (evidence supporting design), etc...
P.S. This article mentions that Darwin himself said for his theory to be true it would require vast amounts of transitional fossils, which we all know doesn't exists, talk about a bare assertion theory, perhaps its time for toe to be laid to rest, etc... 404 Not Found
Conclusion — Be prepared to dismantle the Illusion!!!Darwin wrote that in order for his theory to be true, the number of transitional links "must have been inconceivably great".21 A century and a half later, the tons of fossils we have since unearthed have not produced even the slightest inkling of what must exist if evolution occurred on earth. When we examine the most intact and thorough portion of the fossil record, a portion that represents more than 99.99% of the entire fossil record, we do not find a single one of Darwin’s necessary links, not even one that evolutionists can agree on. None. Nada. Zippo. Creationist Dr Duane Gish summed it up very well: FliesOnly, 1. State the hypothesis: Darwin said transitional evidence must be inconceivably great. 2. Detail the experment that was used to test the hypothesis: The museums lack of transitional evidence in museums, to support Darwins hypothesis. 3. Tell us the results and how they support creationism.: while this is a thread to Intelligent design, the lack of transitional fossils, show toe should be replaced, thus supports the alternative theories, Creationism, and Intelligent design, etc... [This message has been edited by whatever, 01-23-2004]
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johnfolton  Suspended Member (Idle past 5621 days) Posts: 2024 Joined: |
JonF, I heard the Neanderthals hands were not curved, that their backs were not hunched over, given the bible infers there were giants in them days, that they were competent in smelting iron, bronze to the making of impliments kjv genesis 4:22, etc...when you look at the pleistocene fossils, they talk of giant beavers, anteaters, mammoths, etc... Atlantisquest.com which are not evident today, and given you all believe pleistocene fossils were quite recently, why wouldn't our biblical ancestors be quite large too, etc...
Giant Humans and Dinosaurs P.S. The sediments that erupted out of the earth would of dated old even before they erupted out of the earth, these contaminants would of leached into the basalts, igneous rocks, by dual porosity, no wonder the different dating methods appear to agree one to the other, but really its meaningless, due to said processes, etc...
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johnfolton  Suspended Member (Idle past 5621 days) Posts: 2024 Joined: |
::, Intelligent design believes in natural selection, that life adapts survival of the fitess, but that this support design, in that the alleles of the genes is part of the diversification of the species, etc...
P.S. I brought out how inbreeding caused problems, in fact breeders will use this to create new species of dogs, parrots, but this doesn't address the need for the creatures to increase information, new genes needed for the different organs, irruducible complexities that differ in different species, etc...In truth, Darwins origin of the species, has no proof the cambrian explosion, massive fossil evidences didn't have a common designer, but the fossils that came onto the scene were fully functional, granted some of since went extinct, you just don't see a cat evolving into a fish, not that they don't share evidence of a common designer, Every fossil is not a transitional fossil for there is simply no evidence in the natural that genes are increasing in information, but there is evidence that a decreasing of information, is increasing, etc... [This message has been edited by whatever, 01-23-2004]
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johnfolton  Suspended Member (Idle past 5621 days) Posts: 2024 Joined: |
Loudmouth, Dual porosity requires water(Water Table,etc...), your not factoring in the weak electrical current generated by earth ground (the electron sink), I thought I heard that its possible to connect a copper radiator in stream lower than the house, why people have used a water flowing and connect an insulated copper wire to the insulated metal roof, to generate an electric current, etc...
P.S. A moon rock, meteorite, etc... only supports the sediments that erupted out from within the earth would of dated old even before it erupted out from the earth, etc... [This message has been edited by whatever, 01-23-2004]
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