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Author Topic:   Intelligent (maybe), but far from perfect
iano
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Message 54 of 91 (229792)
08-04-2005 3:12 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by MattS
08-07-2003 3:08 PM


Why did God get it wrong?
MattS writes:
I can go on, but you get the idea. If ID is true, then we might want to rename it SID (somewhat intelligent design), or maybe IFITD (I'll finish it tomorrow design). Maybe we are prototypes - if so I can't wait to see what the final product will look like.
Anybody with even a passing knowledge of what God (if he exists) is supposed to be like, would know that words like: omnipotent,omniescent, eternal, transcedent, immutable, unique apply to him. If he did create all this then such words would only go a limited way in quantifying him (if he existed). In other words God (if he exists) is BIG. Much bigger than the human imagination could ever hope to get a handle on. Bigger in every way: creativity, knowledge, wisdom, means, ability, skill,resourcefulness,foresight etc. He is possibly similar in his ways(if he exists - I'll stop saying this now and assume you'll place it in yourself when necessary)when he created as to us when we create things. The most obvious of these similarities would, I imagine, be purpose. That's the first reason that anyone creates anything, for a purpose.
Similar is not the same as 'same' though. If God, then in order to know why he did what he did we would have to know something about him and his ways. We would never however,get to know all his ways - for that to happen we would have to be as all-knowing as he is. We would have to be God ourselves. And to date, a created thing has never been of the same order as the thing that created it.
It seems obvious then, that the less we know about God the less we can hope to understand why he did what he did. If we don't know God at all then we couldn't suppose to know anything at all about why he did what he did. If we don't know God (at all), his purpose will not make any sense to us because we have no grasp (at all) about what his version of sense is. It is safe to suppose they differ significantly, as different as we are in every way from him. Needless to say, when it comes to whose sense carries the most weight then it will be his. Like, are YOU going to debate God?
There's no point in examining his creation with a view to establishing one way or the other, whether what he did was perfect or not. To do that you'd have to know what his idea of perfect is - in order to measure his creation against it. Similarily, there is (logically) no way to decide for/against a creator based on perceived imperfections in his design.
If you had to take a educated guess, then I suppose it is safe to assume the being who designed a heart,lung or kidney is capable of making sure they are able to withstand the attack of diseases - or to make sure the diseases don't exist in the first place. But chose, for whatever reasons not to do so.
If someone really wanted to know then the best person to ask is obviously him (if he existed)
This message has been edited by iano, 05-Aug-2005 12:59 PM

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