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Author Topic:   Ushering In An Age of Reason....Or Not.....?
Coyote
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Message 3 of 187 (622901)
07-07-2011 10:58 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Straggler
07-04-2011 12:13 PM


Re: Not
It seems to be the expectation (or at least hope) of the new atheists that an age of reason be ushered into existence. An age in which religious and other superstitious beliefs are sidelined into irrelevance by a near universal acceptance that rationality, reason and evidence based inquiry hold the key to human advancement and progress.
I suppose our capacity for self-delusion is boundless.
John Steinbeck (Travels with Charley: In Search of America)
Religion and the belief in an afterlife seems immune from "rationality, reason and evidence based inquiry."
Shamans (of all kinds) are selling immortality -- and who doesn't want that! -- but they are doing so with no evidence, just vast promises of future benefits that would make used car salesmen and politicians choke.
So no, I see no age of reason on the horizon.

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

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Coyote
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Message 59 of 187 (630794)
08-27-2011 10:55 PM
Reply to: Message 58 by GDR
08-27-2011 10:19 PM


Back to real evidence
You are of course correct in saying that it is unverifiable, but as the vast majority of the world is a member of some faith group it might be worthwhile getting a consensus about the things that they all agree on and incorporating that into the "Age of Reason". It would at least be more democratic than what you are suggesting IMHO.
I've been scanning this thread.
A consensus of those things religionists agree upon would not be evidence. No matter how many people or groups agreed upon something, it isn't evidence without ... real evidence!
If there was real evidence for the things various religions claim, there would not be some 4,000 world religions, nor would there be some 40,000 different flavors of Christianity alone! If there was real evidence, it would be possible to weigh competing claims and determine which are correct and which are not. Instead, we seem to be getting more and more different religions and sects as we go. These schisms and splits seem to me to show that all lack real evidence.
See the tagline, below, that I've been using for several years.

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

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