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Author Topic:   The moral implications of evolution, and their discontents.
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Message 110 of 124 (439804)
12-10-2007 2:59 PM
Reply to: Message 108 by bluescat48
12-10-2007 12:17 PM


Re: Hitler and evolution
hitler wasn't insane.
why can't people stop using these ridiculous ideas like "genocide is unthinkable" or "tyrants are insane"? it really doesn't help the issue.
google the third wave experiment. it's been done a few times in different ways. every time it's done, in every fashion, it has the same results. people are quickly and easily brought to extreme social cohesion with potentially frightening consequences. people are diseased. and our disease is that we thing that it can be fixed. we have to be aware of the evils we are most certainly all capable of and to which we have so strong a tendency. it is not unthinkable and it does not require madmen. it is, in fact, the most thinkable thing there is. if you can imagine justifying killing someone in self-defense, you are capable of genocide.
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Message 111 of 124 (439807)
12-10-2007 3:05 PM
Reply to: Message 105 by Chiroptera
12-10-2007 11:04 AM


Re: Racism and genocide.
you talk about genocide like the holocaust is the only or the first example.
how's this. rwanda has had two separate genocides. the first in the mid 60s after independence, and the second in 94. there have been several in the surrounding countries predicated on the same distinctions. the "racial" distinctions in the great lakes region were invented by german missionaries who decided that the tutsi social class (to some small and inconsistent extent possessing distint physical characteristics due to sexual selection) looked too "european" to really be "dirty black" bantus. they decided they must be "hamitic" tribes from north africa. they reinforced this artificial separation and built their government on it.
racism and genocide do not come alone from evolution. they come from mankind's nasty habit of deciding that people are different or better and the "other" should be destroyed. we see the same in the bible. we see the same in the new incarnation of islamophobia.

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Message 113 of 124 (439826)
12-10-2007 3:47 PM
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12-10-2007 3:16 PM


Re: Racism and genocide.
actually, yes. he and everyone else in this thread. someone says hitler and you think genocide. someone says genocide and you think hitler. get a grip.

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Message 115 of 124 (439829)
12-10-2007 3:53 PM
Reply to: Message 114 by bluescat48
12-10-2007 3:50 PM


Re: Hitler and evolution
quite. wrong does not determine insane. it is a most effective method of quelling dissent. it's not like it's a new phenomenon.
i think this is the biggest issue. that people define "sane" and "insane" by their own subjective ideas of "right" and "wrong" or "acceptable" and "unacceptable". they have nothing to do with each other.

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