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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Okay, you don't believe in God.
But there is no mention of steak in Genesis yet Steak exists and there is no mention of beer in Genesis and yet steak exists.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Because the Bible is not a science text.
It really is that simple.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
I keep hearing that. So could you post a list of the bits that should be taken literally, who wrote the list, and whether he or she should be taken literally. Otherwise, people like me are inclined to see all of it as ritual and symbolism, including god. No, cannot do. There is no such list. And it's fine for you to believe whatever you want to believe. BUT, if you are willing to put as much time and effort into learning stuff like that as you would in learning geology or mathematics or chemistry or physics or history, you might be surprised what you could learn. The hardest part will be putting aside all the things you know are true that are actually false starting with the concept that there is The BIBLEAnyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Stuff like the history of the books, the canons, the peoples and cultures.
We decide which are worth adopting just like we decide about adopting anything else.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
OK. And what is it we would hope to learn by studying these things? What is the surprise? Can you give us a sneak preview? Nope, of course not. It will depend on how many things you think are true are actually factually false.
Really? When Newton published his Philosophi Naturalis Principia Mathematica containing the inverse square law of gravitation or Einstein published his 1916 paper on the General Theory of Relativity - On what basis were those ideas adopted? Was it the same way that people decide which parts of the bible to adopt and which to reject? I hope so. You test to see if things help you, if you learn something new, if ideas work.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
General Relativity works within it's limits.
All parts of the Bible work or worked within their limits.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Another silly question.
By work I mean accomplish the intended purpose or adequately describe what is observed. But I'm still totally lost about what your point is? Edited by jar, : appalin spallinAnyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Sorry if it doesn't help you but that is actually how you do it. There is no one method.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Yes, and no.
As I said there is no one right method just as there is no such thing as The Bible.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Nice word salad.
What epistemological techniques were applied to arrive at our understanding of gravity. What is "the Bible" you speak of? Why would I apply those techniques to something like the Bible you speak of?Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Too funny.
Again, there is no such thing as "The Bible" and only the truly ignorant would make such a claim. The method used to test to see whether or not would be valuable or worthwhile (I don't think I ever claimed parts to be true although there are parts that are true) vary based on the specific instance being questioned. For example, we can use the scientific method to test whether the Biblical cure for leprosy works or not, whether the Biblical Flood or Exodus or Conquest of Canaan actually happened. But the scientific method is totally useless and worthless to test whether or not those stories worked to help create a peoples or culture.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
I have no problem continuing to try to help you.
As I have repeatedly you use the same methods you use for anything else to determine whether something is helpful or a hindrance. If you wish to test the scientific validity of something you use the scientific method but that is a totally useless method when you try to apply it to nonscientific issues.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
That depends on the specific claim and whether or not it matters if it is true.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Already asked and answered., in about a dozen replies to you already in this thread and in detail in Message 73.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Depends on the claim and that is why I specifically listed several examples in that message.
Perhaps you have some definition of a theological claim with which I am unfamiliar. Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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