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Author Topic:   With a dying white race, why are we not encouraging more white births?
LamarkNewAge 
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Message 196 of 237 (775021)
12-26-2015 9:10 AM
Reply to: Message 192 by Faith
12-26-2015 8:50 AM


Re: Question on the OP
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The Protestant Church was an apostate mess due to the Liberal Theology that had developed in Germany in the 19th century, so that Hitler was able to manipulate them. However, I've heard the opposite, that it was the Catholic Centre Party that voted in Hitler. Hitler was himself a Catholic and he had the Pope of the time on his side, said he modeled the Holocaust after the Inquisition. That same Pope is known for having organized the "rat lines" that provided escape for thousands of criminal Nazis after the war, mostly to Catholic Countries in South America.

The Catholic Centre Party? That might be the case. I was thinking his coalition partner was the Christian Democrats. I don't know enough about the pope though even harsh revisionists disagree with the "Hitler's Pope" conclusion. By "harsh revisionists", I mean those who demonstrate that Catholics really didn't do much to challenge Hitler despite the boasts of their apologists. An example is that Catholic apologists claim that they challenged Hitler's right to round up people who were "1/4" or "1/2" Jewish (those who weren't Jewish but had Jewish grandparents or parents), while I saw a book recently that demonstrated that the Catholic church only was defending the right's of Catholics (with Jewish ancestry)from being persecuted.

As for who voted for Hitler.
https://www.google.com/#q=protestants+voted+for+hitler

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Message 197 of 237 (775028)
12-26-2015 11:30 AM
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12-25-2015 3:42 PM


Omnivorous

It is a states duty to insure that it maintains itself.

That is why they have always been involved in the demographics of our nations.

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DL


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Message 198 of 237 (775029)
12-26-2015 11:32 AM
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12-25-2015 2:31 PM


Re: Question on the OP
Coyote

Irrelevant.

Thanks for the semantic garbage.

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DL


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Message 199 of 237 (775031)
12-26-2015 11:39 AM
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Re: Moderator Provided Information
Admin

That happens when I have limited knowledge of the issues and do not want to give incorrect information.

It leaves me a way out and I need not get into the B S semantics that you have seen in my use of (white).

This seems to indicate that I am correct.

"Neanderthal admixture is present in the DNA of modern Eurasians and Oceanians, and nearly absent in sub-Saharan African populations.

This indicates more diversity in whites.

Regards
DL

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Message 200 of 237 (775034)
12-26-2015 12:03 PM
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12-26-2015 12:52 AM


Re: I havn't read 99% of posts yet.
LamarkNewAge

History is written by the winners and that facts makes it easy to understand why history is poorly presented.

Mental progress may be more reliant on how we think because they are finding, I lost the link, that those who plan or think further in the future instead of the now tend to do better.

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DL


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Message 201 of 237 (775035)
12-26-2015 12:10 PM
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12-26-2015 2:38 AM


Hyroglyphx

Any culture or civilization can be lost if not actively promoted.

Especially when there is another trying to undermine it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dRr854zxbA&feature=playe...

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DL


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Message 202 of 237 (775036)
12-26-2015 12:17 PM
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12-26-2015 4:13 AM


Faith

True that most systems of government are more oppressive than what the west has.

That does not take away that we have our own brand of tyranny.

The moment any regime or government of any kind creates a law, tyranny gets involved as it is expected that the regime will enforce the law with a steel hand and in a tyrannical way.

The West has the most forgiving and freedom seeking systems for sure but that does not mean that it does not have a tyrannical side. We demand it to insure those freedoms we grant ourselves.

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DL


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Message 203 of 237 (775037)
12-26-2015 12:26 PM
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12-26-2015 11:39 AM


Re:
quote:

It is a states duty to insure that it maintains itself.

That is why they have always been involved in the demographics of our nations.


I remember how back in 1990-1991, Asians numbered about 5 million. As of June of 2013, they are now 19.6 million (and the number would be even higher if Iranians, Turks, Arabs, etc. would count as Asian). As of June of 2013, Indian Americans (specifically from India; there are more members of the Indian geographical race present which includes Pakistani-Americans, Afghani-Americans, etc.) numbered 3.6 million.

I wish it was more like 100 million Asians here with full citizenship rights (the census numbers aren't about citizenship). Our economy would be twice as large for starters (our population is about 321 million but the workforce is only around 160 million or so), our national debt would quickly be paid down, interest rates would be lower, the dollar would be stronger, and unemployment would be lower.

But the increase in productivity that 100 million more Asians would bring would create so many jobs that we would need another 100 million on top of them just to keep the economic wheels greased.

Conversely, sending home 12 million undocumented immigrants would be an economic disaster. It would shrink the workforce nearly 10%, and cause businesses to conduct every last bit of outsourcing, plant closing, foreign consolidation they can think of. It would reduces economic output to the point that our economy could shrink perhaps 10% and then the tax revenue would fall so low that the deficit would skyrocket and we would need to jack interest rates up to 10% or more to lure investors to buy our treasury bonds to finance the ever mounting debt (a horrible thing when it is nearly $20 trillion and the only thing preventing a collapse is the near 0% current interest rates).

People make a big fuss out of the $400-$600 billion that Donald Trump's round-up of the 11 million undocumented immigrants would cost. That isn't even a peanut compared to the price we would pay from a total, complete economic collapse. We would default on the debt in just a few years if Trump got his way and the initial cost to chase the immigrants down is the least we need to worry about.

We better be involved in saving our nation from such idiotic b.s. and I can assure you that Trump knows his ideas are foolish. He is just playing to a base so he can "win" the primary and be all proud of himself. It's all a game to him. I bet he didn't think his game plan would get him this far into the primary contest. It's almost 2016 and his crapola has kept him in the lead since, what, July? 6 months now and I bet he didn't have a clue he would be so strong and for so long.

I agree that we better be "involved" in this issue. All of us with voting rights better wake up and realize that Trump will collapse this nation if his words become policy.

quote:

"Neanderthal admixture is present in the DNA of modern Eurasians and Oceanians, and nearly absent in sub-Saharan African populations.

This indicates more diversity in whites.


But East Africans are 25% Caucasian despite the very dark skin. How can they lack "Neanderthal DNA" (assuming the DNA labeled such has been properly identified).

And you said "Eurasians" , which is so broad of a term that it surely would cover the Berbers who migrated to North Africa (from "Eurasia") 5000 years ago. (I can assure you that some Berbers made it to the sub-Saharan part of Africa too.)

Obama has no connection to (the typical)American blacks through his black dad because American blacks (that went through slavery) are descended from West Africans. His dad is East African (a group which does have some "Caucasian" ancestry however, but those Caucasians aren't the same as Brits, Irish, etc.).The closest DNA link Obama has to American blacks is through his mother. American blacks have about 20% of the type of "white" blood that his mother has close to 100% of (her parents were Irish Americans).


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Message 204 of 237 (775038)
12-26-2015 12:32 PM
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12-26-2015 8:53 AM


Re: Where'd the topic go?
Percy

Well put.

Things will change for sure and we cannot go back but it speaks poorly of us if we do not give the most progressive civilization we have developed to date the respect it deserves. It happens to be mostly white.

That color is changing over time for sure but to not value what has benefited mankind the most would mean that white is inferior as we have lost our pride in ourselves.

Perhaps that lack of respect and pride is our next evolutionary step.

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DL


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Message 205 of 237 (775039)
12-26-2015 12:44 PM
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12-26-2015 12:26 PM


Re:
LamarkNewAge

It is hard to say how the Trump thing will end.

I think he is just expressing the majorities view that Islam must be stopped. This is just another expression of the fact that most of us are fed up with all religions and their laws as they are all inferior to secular law.

More and more of us are recognizing that religions have outlived their legal and moral usefulness. That is why we are rejecting Sharia and Christian law.

The present Muslim conflicts are just an expression of Islam dying. This is the last hurrah for the dying.

Regards
DL

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Message 206 of 237 (775040)
12-26-2015 12:50 PM
Reply to: Message 200 by Greatest I am
12-26-2015 12:03 PM


History books
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History is written by the winners and that facts makes it easy to understand why history is poorly presented.

I think the history books used to universally tell us that the British made India (plus other colonies) so much better than they were. I know of plenty of examples (New York has booksellers selling old books on the sidewalk for quite a bargain)just from my reading this year.

Actually India saw it's GDP go down from 30% of the worlds output (c1700) all the way down to 2% in 1947 (the British didn't fully pull out till 1961) and it got close to 1% by 1998-1999. The Brits made sure they chopped India up before they pulled out. The Brits did an amazing job of turning religious group against religious group long enough so they could shatter India into several ruinous pieces. Amazing that Hindus and Muslims always got along except when the Brits were there.

Reminds me of the job the Brits did in turning middle-easterners against each other when they shattered the middle east into 22 pieces. It was only when the Brits colonized the Middle East (after World War 1) and threw up fake borders that peoples became enemies. Amazing.

And the House of Saud is a fake British-invented House of Fraud.

Same with the Hashemites. F-A-K-E!

Same with the Shah of Iran. F-A-K-E monarch with no ancient roots!

Same with the murderous Kuwaiti "monarchy" (a nation that is just a "royal" family and a bunch of glorified slaves with 10% of the worlds oil reserves)

I still remember that just as Bush was saying in 1991 "Kuwait is liberated", nearly 500,000 Palestinian Kuwaitis were rounded up (many killed in blood and tears) and kicked out simply because Arafat sided with the middle eastern people against the fake monarchs and the Lethal Enforcers (i.e. good ole U.S. of A.) of the British Empirical designs.

As long as middle easterners have to deal with a never ending (latent)CIA presence and a B-I-G G-I-A-N-T rotten western overlordship, then we have no right to judge them.

Arabs are fine individuals and so are Indians.
So are Chinese.
So are Africans.

I think we are much better off with them here. They don't have any freedom to traverse the choking borders the west imposed on them in their region. Count me as a supporter of Arab or Syrian immigration. The way we have ruined their nations (how could they not be refugees when we designed it thus?), the least we can do is let them immigrate here.


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Message 207 of 237 (775041)
12-26-2015 12:51 PM
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12-26-2015 12:10 PM


Any culture or civilization can be lost if not actively promoted.

Especially when there is another trying to undermine it.

Then the West does not qualify, since it is singlehandedly the most promoted version of humanity in the world.


"Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine

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Message 208 of 237 (775048)
12-26-2015 1:29 PM
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Hyroglyphx

Not when the Arab league, or whatever they call that group, is in charge of the U.N.'s human rights tribunal.

Regards
DL


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Message 209 of 237 (775050)
12-26-2015 1:34 PM
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12-26-2015 1:29 PM


The "Arab League"
The "Arab League" is dominated by our allies. And our creations.

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Message 210 of 237 (775051)
12-26-2015 1:39 PM
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12-26-2015 12:50 PM


Re: History books
LamarkNewAge

http://tvo.org/...-paikin/yuval-noah-harari-humankind-united

I think that if the U.S. had just decided to be the new Imperial power and taken the world as it's own reward for winning WWII, we might not have had to suffer any of this history.

I hope the winner of WWIII is not as stupid because I think the world seeks to be united either in a NWO be it democratic or a caliphate.

Humans like order and security and creating a world Empire is the greatest order and security we can create.

It would be too big to fail.

Regards
DL

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