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Author Topic:   Describing what the Biblical Flood would be like.
14174dm
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Message 4 of 242 (788426)
07-31-2016 1:34 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by jar
07-31-2016 10:30 AM


Currents for eroding the pre-Flood sediment
JR Baumgardner and DW Barnette have shown that the Flood could easily erode the existing bed rock to create the sediment needed to produce the observed post-Flood strata. The Coriolis effect and rotating earth cause ocean currents throughout the Flooded world. The currents accelerate over the flooded continent to such high rates that rock is eroded. Depending on the scenario, the currents range from 40 to 80 m/s. Since rock is eroded and the resulting sediment transported, the Flood actually happened.

http://static.icr.org/...ver-the-Continents-during-Flood.pdf

The fact that no sediment could be deposited on the continents due to the 40 to 80 m/s velocities is not discussed. Note: Sand deposits in water velocities around 0.1 m/s (IIRC) and silt/mud even slower.

So according to their study, the Flood would erode the continents. If the velocities are too high to deposit the sediment on the continents, then it must all be in the ocean basins.

So the obvious evidence of the Flood is the bare rock of the continents and sand, etc. deposits far out into the oceans.


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14174dm
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Message 14 of 242 (788449)
07-31-2016 8:02 PM
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07-31-2016 6:46 PM


Re: Yet one more thing we can say
The research by the Institute for Creation Research shows that no soil would be left on the continents by the Flood. Any antediluvian trees would have been ripped from the ground and left to float for a year. When the Flood receded, no soil would have been left on the continents for anything to sprout in.

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14174dm
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Message 28 of 242 (788486)
08-01-2016 9:42 AM
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07-31-2016 9:55 PM


Re: Yet one more thing we can say
You claim creationism is scientific so I went to a creation science organization. So if their product is an unsupported assertion, where is the science in creation science?

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14174dm
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Message 208 of 242 (789794)
08-19-2016 12:06 PM
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08-19-2016 1:31 AM


Re: Science vs. creation "science"
Just to cause more arguing....

Genesis 10:25 And unto Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg; for in his days was the earth divided; and his brother's name was Joktan.
The Hebrew word ôìâ is used in this verse and translated divided. The definition is to divide or split.

What is the exact meaning of the Hebrew word translated as "earth" in the verse? Is it earth as in dirt or earth as in planet? Did the Israelites have a concept of the earth as an object floating in space?

Literalism doesn't work if the verse talks about splitting the planet like a tomato. We are obviously on a single chunk floating in space.

Are we assuming that the Hebrew earth in the verse is the same modern meaning as the surface of the planet?


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14174dm
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Message 213 of 242 (789992)
08-23-2016 8:37 AM
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08-22-2016 1:36 AM


Re: Hi 14174Re: Science vs. creation "science"
I don't see why the verse is talking about continental drift rather than political/social borders.

You are talking about a process - splitting the one land mass into continents - that would trigger earthquakes and volcanoes which don't seem to be mentioned in the one brief verse or elsewhere.

Meanwhile the Bible uses sunrise and sunset instead of describing the face of the earth rotating toward or away from the sun.

I think that dividing the earth is more shorthand description than literal scientific language.


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