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Author Topic:   Biased accounts of intelligent design
FLRW
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Message 80 of 150 (861388)
08-20-2019 5:15 PM
Reply to: Message 79 by Faith
08-20-2019 3:51 PM


Re: agnostic ID/Deism and the preponderance of evidence
Isn't pediatric cancer proof of Poor Design?

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Message 82 of 150 (861391)
08-20-2019 5:28 PM
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08-20-2019 5:21 PM


Re: agnostic ID/Deism and the preponderance of evidence
If Diseases are the result of the Fall, they would not have been able to be cured by Man.

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Message 88 of 150 (861491)
08-22-2019 10:54 AM
Reply to: Message 87 by RAZD
08-22-2019 6:41 AM


Re: Geting back to the question of ID
I believe in non compassionate intelligent design. The proof of intelligent design is the creation of the strings in String Theory and their quantity. The creation of 200 sextillion stars would give the probability that one planet of these stars would create life. The question is why? A philosopher today would need a background in Quantum Mechanics and String Theory.

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Message 92 of 150 (861511)
08-22-2019 1:41 PM
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08-22-2019 11:43 AM


Re: Geting back to the question of ID -- a philosophy
RAZD, strings are the basic component of atoms. Once atoms developed from the strings, then one of the common hypotheses for the origin of life is the RNA World, which postulates that the oceans had RNA (or RNA-like) molecules floating around and catalysing their own reproduction. These RNAs would have been the very first genomes.

We know already that aspartate, glutamate, glycine, alanine, serine, leucine, and valine - the most common amino acids - can be found in volcanic lava and other abiotic substrates. Amino acids are what RNAs interact with, so their natural presence hints that they could have acted as an "enabler" for the evolution of the very first genes, which would have been molecules that reacted with them for some benefit.

Fast forward a bit and these gene-molecules combined together into a chain, RNA, which uses the amino acids for energy, using that energy to trigger catalysising their own reproduction.

Put these wayward RNAs into a self-built bilipid membrane (lipids join together naturally) where amino acids can be concentrated, and you have yourself the very first protocell/"true organism".


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Message 93 of 150 (861513)
08-22-2019 1:48 PM
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08-22-2019 1:32 PM


Re: Geting back to the question of ID
Now, as a String Deist, my belief is that Strings were created by god/s (or their equivalent) and then had no further interaction with them.

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Message 97 of 150 (861517)
08-22-2019 2:52 PM
Reply to: Message 96 by Theodoric
08-22-2019 2:26 PM


Re: A new string theory?
Quarks are fundamental particles which combine to form protons / neutrons / mesons and other particles. The theory which describes this mechanism is called The Standard Model of physics and incorporates theories like quantum electrodynamics and quantum chromodynamics. Another language in which these phenomena are explained is the quantum field theory. But one shortcoming of these models is that they are not able to incorporate the gravitational force. These theories can explain what gives rise to other three forces - electromagnetic force, weak force, strong force (which quarks exert) and how they interact. But cannot bring gravity into the equations.

This is where the string theory comes in. It so happens that the gravitational force pops right out of the equations of string theory rather naturally - along with the other 3 forces.
So it is believe that this formulation is a strong contender of being a unified theory of everything. The paradigm upon which the string theory is based is that instead of point like particles, the fundamental entities of nature are one dimensional strings - very very tiny strings - which vibrate and different vibrations are manifested as different fundamental particles. What I am asking is a god/creator controlling these vibrations?


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Message 146 of 150 (882015)
09-08-2020 5:36 PM
Reply to: Message 145 by Capt Stormfield
09-07-2020 6:00 PM


Re: Geting back to the question of ID
Isn't pediatric cancer evidence of poor design? Isn't 8.7 million species on Earth evidence of poor design?

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