What we must accept if we accept materialism

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Personally, I think the numerous testimonies of people attest to the reality of "spiritual beings" whether God or angels. Perhaps you choose to reject that evidence, but regardless, the reality is the only reason these things are not observed yet by science is that we lack the technology and ingenuity to do so.

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Personally, I think the numerous testimonies of people attest to the reality of "alien abductions and probes" whether from space aliens. Perhaps you choose to reject that evidence, but regardless, the reality is the only reason these things are not observed yet by science is that we lack the technology and ingenuity to do so.What's the difference, randman?Do you accept the testimonials of alien abduction claimants, too?

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Schraf, I certainly do not dismiss alien abduction accounts out of hand, or claim they are beyond the scope of science, as some of you guys claim when it comes to spiritual things.

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Of course, as you must know by now because I have corrected your misrepresentation of my views so many times, I do not dismiss either alien abductions nor "spiritual things" out of hand.I would be the most excited and awestruck person on the planet were there to be good, solid scientific evidence that either of these things were real.But so far I have seen no evidence.You have presented many anecdotal stories which are big on "believe me, I was there!"-, or "a friend of a man I met got gold teeth at church! It's true!"-type of completely credulous assurances.But anybody can make these claims, randman.So tell me, WRT alien abduction claims, do you simply believe what the people are claiming? Do you require any sort of evidence at all?What do you think of the claims of people who say that they have seen Bigfoot? Do you believe them? Do you believe that Bigfoot exists?