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Author Topic:   What we must accept if we accept materialism
PaulK
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Message 45 of 107 (285282)
02-09-2006 4:57 PM
Reply to: Message 44 by robinrohan
02-09-2006 4:24 PM


Re: Free will and determinism
Your argument lacks one point. Why the idea of PHYSICAL causation is important. If we assuemd that the mind was a non-physical deterministic system how would it save your preferred concept of free will ?

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Message 60 of 107 (285511)
02-10-2006 11:58 AM
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02-10-2006 10:51 AM


Re: Free will and determinism
So please explain why you believe that it is important. I can't see any reason why physical determinism should be any more of a problem to free-will than non-physical determinism.

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Message 89 of 107 (286203)
02-13-2006 1:35 PM
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02-13-2006 12:47 PM


Re: Nihilism, morality and purpose
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God's moral law can'tbe anything other than a perfect expression of his own character, and He is good.
The problem is this: When you say that God's character is good then - for the statement to be anything other than vaccuous - it must hold that God is good by a standard independant of God. And this standard itself would then be the real ground of morality.t

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Message 91 of 107 (286206)
02-13-2006 1:44 PM
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02-13-2006 1:39 PM


Re: Nihilism, morality and purpose
OK, so God disagrees with you. In that case you need to find another answer.y

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