Did the universe begin as a vastly dense singularity billions of years ago, or with God's immortal words just some thousands of years ago?
Or maybe a vastly dense singularity sprang into existence billions of years ago at God's immortal words.
Brokenpride writes:
How could you start at negative infinity and climb to 2006? Even if history repeated itself I felt that we would still be at a certain number of repetitions. Another way of explaining it, is if all matter had to react with itself to reach the form it is at today it could not have been forever reacting in history.
It makes far more sense to me to believe the bible and accept that the universe was created by God. When God created matter and the laws of physics and time, history, weight, velocity and all other measurements could now be measured.
The universe springing from a timeless God seems no easier to explain than a universe springing from a timeless void. It's an additional complication. Now you not only have the concept of timelessness to explain, but the concept of God as well.
Brokenpride writes:
Everyone knows that light bends. How do we know that we aren't looking at our own sun's light thinking it's another star. Is it possible that light from the sun could be bending around a giant sphere until "wow" we can see it with our telescope? That's a bit extreme but ever notice how all the stars of the milky way are printed on paper. I wonder what the three dimensional picture would look like?
It's still an open question whether the universe is gravitationally closed or not. Even if it, however, light from the Sun, or even our galaxy, would be incredibly faint by the time it circumnavigated the universe and got back to us. Not only that, but the Sun would be a slowly cooling white dwarf by then.
Brokenpride writes:
After all when we are looking at stars billions of light years away how do we know that the image didnt come from an entirely different direction? Perhaps the whole universe is one big sphere with light bouncing in from the border. -just a thought
Perhaps, although two obvious questions arise:
1. What's the sphere made of?
2. What's outside?
Thinking up new speculative models is fun. Making models that explain observations better than existing models--therein lies the rub.
This message has been edited by Posit, 03-21-2006 07:53 AM
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