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Message 29 of 79 (193016)
03-21-2005 9:50 AM

Reply to: Message 21 by CK
03-20-2005 5:56 PM

Read'n, Writin and R'thmatic

CharlesKnight writes:

Your grasp of certain things is a lot better than most of the kids that I used to teach who were your age.

You were a teacher, Charles? What grades did you teach and what particular subjects? Teaching is not easy. I have been tutoring some kids from the local High School on a limited basis in English "Think-Aloud Reading. It is NOT easy, and I am learning more than teaching at this point.

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Message 31 of 79 (193039)
03-21-2005 12:19 PM

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03-21-2005 10:57 AM

Physics Tutor needed..philosophy helpful!

Anyone who can tutor physics gets MY respect!

Lam, did you and your students ever get philosophical?

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Message 32 of 79 (193049)
03-21-2005 12:33 PM

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03-21-2005 1:03 AM

Re: You are incorrect.

Lam writes:

When I was in high school, our English teacher would always tell us that if you think you know something but can't explain it very well, then you don't really know it. My college freshman physics prof once told me the same thing.

Does this logic apply to the understanding of God? I would say that belief is not science.
BTW, Jacen, you are more of a puppy than a kitten!

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Message 33 of 79 (193243)
03-22-2005 5:51 AM

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03-21-2005 1:20 AM

Infinite Wisdom or eternal confusion? Tonite on Law and Order.

Jar writes:

Frankly, even considering something like Mind over Matter is an exercise in futility at this point. You just don't have the basics yet.

Guido may not have the basics, but that is the beauty of freethought thinking. A religious question such as What came first? Creation or a Creator? asks what the first event was? A Creating Mind or eternally existing matter?

Lam writes:

The same concept can be applied to laws. The universe behaved the way it appear to behave long before any of the laws were "discovered". It , therefore, is not that hard to come to think that these laws dictate the universe rather than the universe dictating these laws.

So if the Laws predated the universe, were these laws formed by a mind? Or were the laws merely later defined by later minds that are made out of matter?

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Message 37 of 79 (193585)
03-23-2005 2:37 AM

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03-22-2005 2:22 PM

Re: Infinite Wisdom or eternal confusion? Tonite on Law and Order.

Well..I looked here first: http://www.rense.com/general40/dooms.htm

Then, having grasped a bit of the theory behind the Cobalt Bomb, I considered your question:

Lam writes:

If the cobalt bomb exists, would you say that it would be the most powerful bomb in the universe? If so, how would you find out for sure?

And now for my Final Answer,Regis: If a cobalt bomb exists, it would be as dumb as two guys in a jail cell possessing hand grenades and squaring off to fight!

By no means would such a bomb even be seriously considered to be the most powerful bomb in the physical universe...but perhaps currently in our world,no?

Now...as to how I would find out....hmmmm....I could ask you, Lam!

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Message 38 of 79 (197878)
04-09-2005 9:54 AM

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Re: Infinite Wisdom or eternal confusion? Tonite on Law and Order.

Which logical fallacy did I use? Lets briefly discuss....

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Message 49 of 79 (298526)
03-27-2006 4:03 AM

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07-11-2005 7:41 PM

Re: nitpicking terminology

Catholic Scientist writes:

I prefer the idea that our universe is one of an infinite that have occured in a cyclical pattern of big bangs and big crunches over and over again.

Infinite? Infinite creation implies a pantheistic concept of God. (And I am assuming, in my belief, that God lit the fuse on the Big Bang, so to speak)

By the way, I DO realize that this is a Cosmology Forum, but I think that an infinite past is both a scientific and a philosophical/theological question.

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