LudvanB
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quote:
Originally posted by TrueCreation:
"The proposal put forward in Genesis for the creation is that
all animal life was created 'as is' during the six day creation
period."
--No doubt. LUD:...though quite innacurate. "Fossils are created when animals die, and particular conditions
exists such that their remains are petrified (simplification)."
--Actually, they are permineralized, but othewize you are basically correct. LUD: we all agree here but i know it cant last... "If ALL animals were created at the same time it follows that there
would be NO sequence within the fossil record."
--Assuming that the fossil record has anything to do with the creation account. LUD:But it does in a way...lets keep reading. "Animals of varying
types would have died as their lifespan dictated (even if that were
much longer when they were first created than now)."
--No doubt, that doesn't mean that they would have been burried to reach permineralization. LUD:actually,premineralisation depends on the environemental conditions that prevailed where the animal as i understand it and burrial in certain substance is often necessary to achieve this. If i'm wrong about this,someone correct me. "Sequences observable in the fossil record show, for example,
no mammals in layers below or equivalent to , say, dinosaurs."
--Actually they are found in the region where dinosaurs are exhibited in the fossil record, though they become dominant thereafter. LUD:But the point is that despite some rare exceptions,the fossil record is quite consistant...nothing,then small critters from the cambian explosion,dinos,and THEN birds and mammals. In that context,the weight of evidence does not support the creation accounts... "Sequence in the fossil record is contrary to the expected observation
if the creation account were fact."
--But the creation account has nothing to do with the Fossil Record? LUD: yes it does if the fossil record tends to demonstrate that certain types of animals appeared and were gone LONG BEFORE other type of animals came about. The creation account is quite specific on this...BIRDS THAN ANIMALS,all of em in 2 days. "Therefore the creation ACCOUNT is inaccurate."
--See above. LUD:you too,TC... "Whether or not the ACCOUNT of creation is accurate, inaccurate, or
falsified has little bearing on whether there is a God who
actually created the world."
--Whew, were not lost yet! LUD: We never were anywhere near being lost...Evolutionists dont claim that there is no God...they just explain that he probably did not work the way teh Bible describes. "I am not concerned with undermining
your faith, but if the creation is a matter of faith to you and
that's that ... why are you debating here ?"
--thats a very good question, indeed, mabye you should ask yourself that question sometime? LUD:If i may be permited to answer this as well,i come here because i get many things from the debates. The absolute worst thing that can happen to science is to become complacent. Sometimes,debating the "other side" so to speak allows certain faults in your logic to appear that you may have missed otherwise and it gives you the opportunity to re-evaluate your conclusions to see what you may have missed. True,this may mean that you might change your mind completely about the issue you're debating if the fault discovered in your logic was a fatal one but most of the time,it just re-inforces your earlier position because you come back after adressing the problems with an even greater understanding of the hypothesis you are defending in a debate. Does that answer your question...at least as far as i'm concerned?
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