AntiGod education should not be compulsary (even for non wealthy)

14gipper,One of the Creator's more problematic statements concerns His role in deluding those "who did not receive the love of the truth." Basically, along with His creation of us and everything came a plan for dealing with what was created. That plan includes one for training children, as a part of loving the truth. Those who reject that plan, the Lord says He insists on deluding.The plan for training children is to do it with parents as teachers, at home and work, with a curriculum centered on the His laws. Teach when you sit down, get up, walk here and there, when you go to bed. Send your children to any school, and God says that He will send on you and your children a spirit of delusion. Godless evolution, for example. So you and they will believe the lie.Most people, remember, are enemies of God. They are friends of the world, born as slaves of sin, trained from before birth to destroy themselves, His creation and His people. Those that get born again are different, but they are few. God is like all of us. We hope our enemies will go away, die off, be neutralized. So does He. So, He corrupts schools, causing them to train up children to be impotent, reproductively fruitless, drugged, stupid. He wants as many as will to be "born again" of course, but is realistic about the prospects of that happening.He tells me to leave the schools and the abortion clinics alone. The only persons being damaged there are hopelessly lost anyway. Adopt an orphan, and teach them as a father what you are demonstrating here, how to use authority, art, science, and history, to know the truth about God and His creation. Let those who have used their free will to choose death get what they have chosen, in peace. You might change God's mind about His agenda of deluding the schooled, but not through arguments here.Stephen

14gipper, As serious as I can be. I admire your insight into the debate here, but sense it might profit from my own attempts to understand what God is really up to, and wants changed to make things better. Callous would be that God and us, while allowing those who choose evil and death to get what they have chosen, would not grieve over the consequences. This is not the case. But grieving and acting to change those consequences are different. Especially when the action is largely futile and even confused. Of course we live in a created world--every respectable epistemology that I know of reaches that realization. I suppose some evolution has occurred as well, and the theory of evolution has taught us a great deal about how God created. But, to look at this process as God-less, as natural instead of artificial selection, as random mutation instead of genetic engineering, thus discrediting God's creative genius in the process, is as you argue, indecent. Highly agenda-ed.A lot of those who post here are more hopeful than those who are vegging out mentally. Hot or cold is better than luke-warm.My agenda is the love of truth, the study and application of methods for judging debates and deciding controversies. Evolutionists usually, in my experience, misrepresent science, creationists misrepresent God. Study the scientific method, and evolution, in my experience, pales in plausibility. Study God, and most items on the creationist's agenda are fallacious. Like making schools better. If creationism is true, no way would God want it taught in schools, which He has created to delude.Stephen

Trixie,Yes, indeed, Yeshua or Jesus has indeed paid the price for everyone's sin, and any and every one who so choses can walk away from death and destruction. Moreover, any that do make that choice, for life and truth, whatever "theology" they espouse, whatever they know or don't know about what Jesus did for them, the "sin" associated with their ignorance is redeemed and does not kill them. But life for humans involves free will, and the first thing Yeshua bought for us all is the choice, the freedom. Those who take that freedom, and stay in or walk back into spiritual captivity, in this case, denial, are still free to do so, which means that they get what they are asking for, the consequences of that choice, which is death, delusion, whatever we are told are the consequences of certain behaviors. "Behold the goodness and severity of God."You know the history, Trixie. People want freedom more than anything, and do not want to be forced into loving God, or avoiding evil. The devil sets out his temptations, they like what is offered and run away from any effort to tell them that they are being had. The Thessalonian verses that tell how God Himself sends out the spirit of delusion to those who will not "love the truth." are in the NT. I'm warning as many as I can that schools are bad epistemology, according to God, and that choosing to let schools be one's way of learning the truth is basically hating the truth. At least, it is if you know anything about God. But, people are free to shake their heads, and write the prophet off, because schools are convenient, or something. Instead of searching out the truth of the matter, loving the truth, they rationalize the schooling option. It's a fatal choice, not getting to the truth of the matter. Not learning how to get to the truth of the matter. And God sadly shakes His head, but can do nothing without taking away their choice. And so, He lets them go.I didn't write the book, Trixie, I only read it and asked it's reputed Author to explain difficult verses. That's good epistemology, that's loving the truth. Did I like what I learned? Of course not. But changing one's mind when we discover that "our ways are not God's ways" is highly recommended, so I did. Millions do have a different view of God, and their life has little to commend it.Peace.Stephen