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Author Topic:   Hydrologic Evidence for an Old Earth
jar
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Message 4 of 174 (326186)
06-25-2006 8:21 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by subbie
06-25-2006 8:17 PM


Re: Prove it!
Have you ever stuck your finger over the end of a hose and directed it at the ground? What happens?
If you force water through the aquifer at a higher rate, then goodbye aquifer, hello cavern.

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jar
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Message 38 of 174 (326406)
06-26-2006 10:36 AM
Reply to: Message 31 by Faith
06-26-2006 2:08 AM


Magic Mythological Biggie-sized Flood
And there's nothing "magic" about the destructive power of forty days of steady deluge plus turbulent seas encroaching on land with tidal waves and currents carrying all kinds of stuff.
Please explain the YEC model for wearing down a mountain in 40 days.
Here is your problem Faith. There is no way 40 days of rain can wear down a granite mountain. End of case. Until you can present the model that show how that is possible you can use that as some magic myth but not as science.
But even the Magic Mythological Biggie-sized Flood will not explain Artesian Aquifers.
Artesian Aquifers are a layer of permeable stone between two layers of non permeable material. Artesian Aquifers refute the idea of a Magic Mythological Biggie-sized Flood. Here is why.
  • they are not found all over the world.
  • they are not at the same level universally.
  • often there are many layers stacked vertically.
  • above and below each layer is a non permeable layer.
  • the layers are not filled vertically by ground water, but rather from ground water at the point where the Aquifer approaches the surface and then the water travels horizontally.
  • the water in the aquifer can be dated by radiometric methods, and the results are not uniform for all Aquifers as they would have to be if produced by your Magic Mythological Biggie-sized Flood.
If you wish to present the Magic Mythological Biggie-sized Flood as the source for Artesian Aquifers or Aquifers in general, you need to present a detailed model for the Magic Mythological Biggie-sized Flood that explains the issues raised above.

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jar
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Message 45 of 174 (326431)
06-26-2006 11:38 AM
Reply to: Message 43 by Faith
06-26-2006 11:26 AM


Re: Magic Mythological Biggie-sized Flood
Nobody said the flood wore down granite mountains.
What is the YEC explanation for the source of the stuff that was supposedly laid down in the Magic Mythical Biggie-sized Flood? Where does the stuff needed to make mud come from?
Nobody said everything had to occur all over the world in a flood.
What is the YEC model that excludes a worldwide Magical Mythical Biddie-sized Flood?

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jar
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Message 55 of 174 (326445)
06-26-2006 12:00 PM
Reply to: Message 50 by Faith
06-26-2006 11:46 AM


Re: Magic Mythological Biggie-sized Flood
The topic, Faith is Hydrolic Evidence for an Old Earth. If you wish to challenge that evidence then you need to present a model based on your Magical Mythical Biggie-sized Flood that explains Aquifers and in particular Artesian Aquifers.
Here is a link to a line drawing of just one such Artesian Aquifer, the the Floridian Aquifer that underlies most of Georgia and Florida.
Questions about the Magical Mythical Biggie-sized Flood model are certainly on topic if you with to use the Magical Mythical Biggie-sized Flood as the origin for that Artesian Aquifer, Aquifers in general or any specific Aquifer.
You need to present a model that explains the evidence seen.

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jar
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Message 61 of 174 (326452)
06-26-2006 12:17 PM
Reply to: Message 58 by Faith
06-26-2006 12:07 PM


Re: Magic Mythological Biggie-sized Flood
I was asking questions about the aquifers as anglagard was describing them. Since I know there was this worldwide flood it had to affect the aquifers too. How is still open for speculation though.
Well, you did bring up the Magical Mythical Biggie-sized Flood in Message 5 which was your first post in this thread and you do keep saying that there was some Magical Mythical Biggie-sized Flood, but so far have never presented a model that would show that there was a Magical Mythical Biggie-sized Flood or how a Magical Mythical Biggie-sized Flood could create aquifers.
Do you have a model that explains aquifers other than long periods or time and normal geological and hydrological processes?

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jar
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Message 81 of 174 (326610)
06-26-2006 8:06 PM
Reply to: Message 79 by iano
06-26-2006 7:59 PM


Re: Forum Guidelines Warning
Do you honestly expect anyone to believe you would forsake a belief in science (read: scientific method) no matter what the evidence? You're assuming the higher ground here CK. A higher ground which supports itself on... wait for it... yup...science.
I for one certainly would. Bring it on. Throughout this whole thread we have been asking for the YEC model that would explain the evidence.

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jar
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Message 171 of 174 (326973)
06-27-2006 9:38 PM
Reply to: Message 169 by lfen
06-27-2006 9:13 PM


Re: Magic Mythological Biggie-sized Flood
Were the Volcanos active in Georgia and Florida 4500 years ago?

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