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Author Topic:   Are Uranium Halos the best evidence of (a) an old earth AND (b) constant physics?
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Message 4 of 142 (478534)
08-16-2008 9:06 PM
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08-16-2008 6:30 PM


anyone that can tell what goes on in the ring formation would also help.

Surely it's chemical/mechanical damage. Alphas bouncing off nuclei until they run out of steam, and then stealing electrons from atoms and making new ions out at the out-of-steam radius are both going to do some damage to crystal structure in the host mineral. Enough alpha particles from a bit of uranium, and one can see the damage.

I'm betting the YEC response will sound like, "Yeah, now alpha energy and half-life correlate inversely, but back during Teh Fludde......"


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Message 10 of 142 (478558)
08-17-2008 2:44 PM
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08-16-2008 9:49 PM


Re: Relation found
Change the decay rate, and you change the energy of the alpha particle.

Which is how bismuth 209 can have a 3 MeV alpha decay - its half life is 10^19 years.

Where are the YEC's, Coragyps wonders......


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Message 16 of 142 (478631)
08-18-2008 7:43 PM
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08-18-2008 11:35 AM


Re: Young Earth !!!!!!! - NOT THE TOPIC
Where is your evidence that accelerated decay would change the energy of the alpha particle affecting ring diameter, etc...?

The graph that you saw in post #7, you drooling goober!! At least make a tiny effort here, Whatever!


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Message 23 of 142 (478683)
08-19-2008 1:58 PM
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08-18-2008 11:30 PM


Re: Young Earth !!!!!!! - NOT THE TOPIC
How do you explain squashed Polonium-210 radiohalos and no evidence of the parent element?

You might want to read the first two sentences of this thread again, JF.


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Message 66 of 142 (489155)
11-24-2008 1:53 AM
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11-24-2008 12:44 AM


Re: added comment, Cavediver
If you start with the assumption that the initial activity of U234 was approximately the same as U238, (since this is what is observed in all natural waters and magmas today)...

Say what? U234 is a daughter of U238. What do you mean by "activity?"


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Message 117 of 142 (667734)
07-11-2012 5:26 PM
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07-11-2012 3:19 PM


Re: bump for foreveryoung
all atoms would have zero mass and light would travel at infinite speed

Photons already have zero mass. They do not travel at infinite speed.

And the sole reason you are pushing this stuff is your interpretation of a few verses in Genesis, anyway! Why should we even be listening? " If you can never pull your head out the standard model" of young-earth creationism and give reality "a chance".......


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