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Message 36 of 79 (616876)
05-24-2011 8:55 PM 		Reply to: Message 35 by fearandloathing
05-24-2011 8:50 PM

Re: Is this true?
The US, perhaps more than almost any other country, faces one additional problem.
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We built our cities and living areas based on cheap gas.
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We face a situation where for the last thee quarters of a century we expanded where we live, work, grow food and play around cheap gas.
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Message 38 of 79 (616880)
05-24-2011 9:26 PM 		Reply to: Message 37 by fearandloathing
05-24-2011 9:06 PM

the problem
The problem we will face is that we built our infrastructure around personal cars and cheap gas, and infrastructure cannot be replaced in even decades.
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Now we need to decide if we want to change.
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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Message 42 of 79 (616884)
05-24-2011 9:45 PM 		Reply to: Message 40 by fearandloathing
05-24-2011 9:42 PM

Re: Is this true?
This is the change I was discussing.
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For example, he is talking about hauling a three horse trailer into the wilderness.
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The answer is to have vehicles capable of that available on a per use charge basis.
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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar
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05-24-2011 10:06 PM 		Reply to: Message 47 by Coyote
05-24-2011 10:03 PM

Re: Is this true?
Coyote writes:
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jar writes:
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This is the change I was discussing.
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For example, he is talking about hauling a three horse trailer into the wilderness.
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The answer is to have vehicles capable of that available on a per use charge basis.
How about you libs let the rest of us alone, eh?
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Your "answers" might be fine for the little libs from Yale and Harvard--they obviously don't know any better--but the rest of us have our own ways of doing things.
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The key is that you are going to change, one way or another.
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The goal is to find ways to minimize the pain of change.
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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar
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05-24-2011 10:11 PM 		Reply to: Message 52 by Coyote
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Re: Is this true?
Coyote writes:
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jar writes:
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Coyote writes:
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jar writes:
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This is the change I was discussing.
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For example, he is talking about hauling a three horse trailer into the wilderness.
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The answer is to have vehicles capable of that available on a per use charge basis.
How about you libs let the rest of us alone, eh?
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Your "answers" might be fine for the little libs from Yale and Harvard--they obviously don't know any better--but the rest of us have our own ways of doing things.
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The key is that you are going to change, one way or another.
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The goal is to find ways to minimize the pain of change.
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Ah, I'm going to change, eh?
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For my own good, of course? (Or is it for the children?)
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Do I get to drive my 4x4 to the reeducation camp, or do I have to take the bus?
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You'll be able to rent a 4x4 if needed.
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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar
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05-24-2011 10:20 PM 		Reply to: Message 55 by Coyote
05-24-2011 10:15 PM

Re: Is this true?
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You'll be able to rent a 4x4 if needed.
Gee, that's big of you. The guvmnt will come by to save us, real soon now.
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You libs sure seem good at trying to order our lives for us. Don't know what we'd do without your help. (But I'd like to try.)
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Look Coyote, I'm happy to put my 'Conservative' credentials up against yours any day, been there, got the t-shirt and the merit badge, so don't try using your lib designation on me.
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The difference between me as a conservative and today's conservatives is that I am not an ignorant, selfish, fascist.
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Change is coming.
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Get used to it.
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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar
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05-24-2011 10:36 PM 		Reply to: Message 65 by Coyote
05-24-2011 10:34 PM

What mandates other than reality?
So far you are the only one talking about mandates.
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Change though is coming whether YOU like it or not.
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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar
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05-24-2011 10:40 PM 		Reply to: Message 70 by Coyote
05-24-2011 10:38 PM

Re: What mandates other than reality?
Coyote writes:
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jar writes:
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So far you are the only one talking about mandates.
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Change though is coming whether YOU like it or not.
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And if I don't like your "change?"
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What is it, the reeducation camps?
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Your dogmatism, and your apparent willingness to force your "change" on others does you no credit.
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Change is called reality son.
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Don't much matter whether you like it or not.
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It's the world folk in the US decided to make, and now they are gonna have to learn to live with it.
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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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