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frako
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Message 51 of 79 (616894)
05-24-2011 10:09 PM


There are alot of green solutions out there
The cheap ones:
- disel cars run on just about any oil all you have to do is filter it (you have to change the gas lines because oil eats trough the standard diesel lines in your car)
- Biodisel can be made out of alot of biowaste that is going to waste as long as the resources are free it costs about 10 cents a liter to make real biodisel not just filtered oil, and biodisel is actually better then real diesel as fare as performance goes
- Electric cars if you dont make allot of mileage and are not a speed freak and its green as long as the electricity is green
- Air cars cars that run on compressed air as long as the electricity is green so is the mode for this transportation surprisingly fast and 400 km on one tank but fast to fill up so not such a problem as electric cars
The less cheap ones and needed in the future
- Growing crops to make biodisel (still cheaper then drilling for the stuff but you have to eat too)
- cars running on natural gas not so green but better then petrol or diesel
Future tech:
-cars running on hydrogen hydrogen is currently expensive if one could produce it cheaply and use green electricity to do so it would be a good alternative to fossil fuels
-The Japanese announced about a year ago that they will make a car that actually "cleans" the environment, i couldn't find out on what principle it will do so but interesting non the less.
As for the energy sources of the future my money is on helium-3 from the moon used in nuclear fusion, a Russian billionaire is planning this he said if the moon was made of gold it would be too expensive to ship it to earth but helium 3 is another story. And of course the standard solar, wind, tidal, hydro, power stations.
As for what the governments can do, public transport of all kinds subway, bus, rent a bike (we just got this in our capital works surprisingly well you buy a card fill it up with cash get to a "bike station " rent it and drop it off at the nearest bike station to your destination) and Eco taxis are becoming more and more popular my guess is the companies save allot on cheap alternative fuel and charge the same as the competition.

  
frako
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Message 54 of 79 (616897)
05-24-2011 10:15 PM
Reply to: Message 42 by jar
05-24-2011 9:45 PM


Re: Is this true?
For example, he is talking about hauling a three horse trailer into the wilderness.
As long as the road isnt too rough my passat 1,9 TDI could do it with ease (has done it) 105 hp but tones of torque diesel baby and if my math is correct 42 miles per gallon.

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frako
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Message 78 of 79 (616942)
05-25-2011 7:35 AM
Reply to: Message 57 by Coyote
05-24-2011 10:20 PM


Re: Is this true?
Try climbing a few dozen miles of bad roads, rising some five thousand feet, with a heavy trailer and three fat horses with all their tack and the camping gear.
The only problem i face is clearance so if the road inst too bad there usually is no problem
If you think its wimpy the higher PS models have less co2 emission and less fuel consumption strange well its a disel and the turbine provide more power with the same amount of fuel just more air in the engine
but if you compare tourqe V6 300 PS petrol engine from passat 350/2400 N * m
My 105 PS engine provides Torque 250/1900 N * m
a say 170 PS same typ engine provides 350/1750 N * m
And torque is what you need to pull heavy stuff
on the other hand i got something else that can take your fully loaded horse trailor in to places army jeeps can only dream about.
Sure only an 80 ps engine but all that engine does is drive hydraulics only 40 km/h but it can haul a few of your 4X4 pulling the other way and push a few of your trailors at the same time
No road at all and completely impassible no problem Make your own or just walk across it using the forward shovel and the back one fun to do. Weak pussy ass 4x4s need not apply
Seriously though you can have economic 4x4 like Honda cr-v 2.2 diesel
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